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crime is a spook

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  • D disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com

    No shit, but looking at past results is how we make informed decisions about literally everything. What the fuck is your point?

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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    #78

    they don’t know what a future looks like without the state or capital.

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    • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      they don’t know what a future looks like without the state or capital.

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      disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com
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      #79

      We can cross that bridge when we get there. Until then, using actual data is more useful than wishful thinking.

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      • D disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com

        We can cross that bridge when we get there. Until then, using actual data is more useful than wishful thinking.

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        commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        #80

        to be clear, you don’t know the future

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        • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          to be clear, you don’t know the future

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          disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com
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          #81

          No shit. Again, what’s your fucking point? Stop being vague and obtuse and just say what you’re getting at.

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          • D disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com

            No shit. Again, what’s your fucking point? Stop being vague and obtuse and just say what you’re getting at.

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            commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            #82

            any claim about the future is dubious, and theirs to a great degree

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            • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              any claim about the future is dubious, and theirs to a great degree

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              disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com
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              #83

              Using the past to make an informed decision on how to proceed is not making dubious claims about the future. The only one making dubious claims about the future is you. Please explain to me how disolving the state would somehow make vigilante justice more effective, considering that vigilante justice is already outside the purview of the state?

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              • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                so it sounds like even though you’re fond of citing dunbar you’ve never actually read his research. CURIOUS.

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                deceptichum@quokk.au
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                #84

                When have I cited Dunbar?

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                • D disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com

                  Using the past to make an informed decision on how to proceed is not making dubious claims about the future. The only one making dubious claims about the future is you. Please explain to me how disolving the state would somehow make vigilante justice more effective, considering that vigilante justice is already outside the purview of the state?

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                  commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  #85

                  I never said vigilante justice would be more effective. you’re arguing with a strawman.

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                  • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    I never said vigilante justice would be more effective. you’re arguing with a strawman.

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                    disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com
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                    #86

                    You very clearly advocated for vigilante justice and then doubled down when u/village604 said that history shows its objectively worse. You’re splitting hairs and I’m blocking your disingenuous ass now.

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                    • D disgruntledgorillagang@reddthat.com

                      You very clearly advocated for vigilante justice and then doubled down when u/village604 said that history shows its objectively worse. You’re splitting hairs and I’m blocking your disingenuous ass now.

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                      commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      #87

                      I’m blocking your disingenuous ass now.

                      oh thank God

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                      • aeonfelis@lemmy.worldA aeonfelis@lemmy.world

                        There is still a point, though, when a government gets so bad that you just have to throw it away even if you know a new one would eventually rise to replace it.

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                        heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                        #88

                        Yup. People are social animals, and governments are just formalized outgrowths of the social structures they form. Fun bit, the research they’ve done shows that not just people but all primates fall back into all of the same social structures they are used to whenever there is a vacancy.

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                        • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                          Law enforcement itself is a problem, it cannot be regulated or trained to anything but the tool of state oppression.

                          People with a direct stake in the wellbeing of a community are the only people who can properly care for the community.

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                          village604@adultswim.fan
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                          It’s cute how absolutely wrong you are.

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                          • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            So you are unable to specify exactly what was fabricated.

                            i did. every line.

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                            village604@adultswim.fan
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                            That’s not being specific. Words have meaning.

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                            • V village604@adultswim.fan

                              That’s not being specific. Words have meaning.

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                              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              #91

                              you’re sealioning now. you know you made all that up because you don’t have a credible source for any of it. go play games somewhere else.

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                              • V village604@adultswim.fan

                                It’s cute how absolutely wrong you are.

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                                commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                #92

                                have you read the sidebar here or for this instance?

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