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  • sandyarmstrong@hachyderm.ioS sandyarmstrong@hachyderm.io

    @SmartmanApps @LucasWerkmeister yes, math has axiomatic truths. But a website (or a fedi post, for that matter) may not be accurate in discussing them.

    I think the wikipedia entry here is pretty clear that it is talking about real numbers, in which case 0.(9) is not a hyperbola, but is in fact a rational number, 1.

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    @sandyarmstrong @LucasWerkmeister
    "yes, math has axiomatic truths" - and literal proofs.

    "may not be accurate in discussing them" - Maths textbooks are, none of which were referenced by the Wiki article.

    "it is talking about real numbers" - yep

    "in which case 0.(9) is not a hyperbola, but is in fact a rational number, 1" - no, it is in fact 0.(9). It can never equal 1 unless you add a 0.000...0001 to it, but the last digit is always a 9, and add another 9, and add another 9, and...

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    • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

      @sandyarmstrong @LucasWerkmeister
      "yes, math has axiomatic truths" - and literal proofs.

      "may not be accurate in discussing them" - Maths textbooks are, none of which were referenced by the Wiki article.

      "it is talking about real numbers" - yep

      "in which case 0.(9) is not a hyperbola, but is in fact a rational number, 1" - no, it is in fact 0.(9). It can never equal 1 unless you add a 0.000...0001 to it, but the last digit is always a 9, and add another 9, and add another 9, and...

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      @SmartmanApps @LucasWerkmeister my friend, let me introduce you to 1/3

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      • sandyarmstrong@hachyderm.ioS sandyarmstrong@hachyderm.io

        @SmartmanApps @LucasWerkmeister my friend, let me introduce you to 1/3

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        @sandyarmstrong @LucasWerkmeister
        "my friend" - your friend is a Maths teacher. Again, here is a whole thread written about it, including Maths textbooks
        https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/115207044364101854

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        • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

          @sandyarmstrong @LucasWerkmeister
          "my friend" - your friend is a Maths teacher. Again, here is a whole thread written about it, including Maths textbooks
          https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/115207044364101854

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          @SmartmanApps @LucasWerkmeister skimming... "1/3 and 0.(3) AREN'T the same number". It looks to me like we aren't going to make any further progress in this conversation. 🙂 Have a great day!

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          • sandyarmstrong@hachyderm.ioS sandyarmstrong@hachyderm.io

            @SmartmanApps @LucasWerkmeister skimming... "1/3 and 0.(3) AREN'T the same number". It looks to me like we aren't going to make any further progress in this conversation. 🙂 Have a great day!

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            @sandyarmstrong @LucasWerkmeister
            "skimming" - not learning

            "It looks to me like we aren't going to make any further progress in this conversation" - you can't contradict centuries of proven Maths, no. You can choose to learn about it or not (in fact it would've been taught to you already in high school, as proven by the Maths textbooks).

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            • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

              @sandyarmstrong @LucasWerkmeister
              "skimming" - not learning

              "It looks to me like we aren't going to make any further progress in this conversation" - you can't contradict centuries of proven Maths, no. You can choose to learn about it or not (in fact it would've been taught to you already in high school, as proven by the Maths textbooks).

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              @sandyarmstrong @LucasWerkmeister
              P.S. ""1/3 and 0.(3) AREN'T the same number" - go read the part of my thread about Base number systems, and you'll discover why it's literally impossible to represent 1/3 exactly in Base 10. We can represent it exactly in Base 3 - 0.1 - but not in Base 10, which is precisely why it's infinitely recurring. All infinitely recurring numbers are only approximations, hence why we use limits as a substitute for them when we need to do arithmetic with them.

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              • raccoon@techhub.socialR raccoon@techhub.social

                @LucasWerkmeister
                @mcjevans

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                @Raccoon @LucasWerkmeister my spouse refuses to believe that peanut butter was invented by John Harvey Kellogg and not George Washington Carver.

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                • lucaswerkmeister@wikis.worldL lucaswerkmeister@wikis.world

                  Fellow fedizens! As decreed by https://xkcd.com/843/ some fifteen years ago, it is once again time to spend the morning reading through the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions.

                  #xkcd #xkcd843 #misconceptions #Wikipedia

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                  @LucasWerkmeister Oh dog, now it's a list of lists 😮

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                  • jerzone@techhub.socialJ jerzone@techhub.social

                    @LucasWerkmeister
                    Lemmings do not engage in mass suicidal dives off cliffs when migrating.
                    "The lemmings in the film were actually purchased from Inuit children, transported to the filming location in Canada and repeatedly shoved off a nearby cliff by the filmmakers to create the illusion of a mass suicide."
                    #wtf

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                    @jerzone @LucasWerkmeister This can‘t be right, I specifically recall lots of lemmings falling to their death in my childhood. Woth their green hair and blue body, they were so adorable…!

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                    • lucaswerkmeister@wikis.worldL lucaswerkmeister@wikis.world

                      Fellow fedizens! As decreed by https://xkcd.com/843/ some fifteen years ago, it is once again time to spend the morning reading through the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions.

                      #xkcd #xkcd843 #misconceptions #Wikipedia

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                      @LucasWerkmeister we did actually read a bunch of it yesterday. it was a good read.

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                      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                        @LucasWerkmeister we did actually read a bunch of it yesterday. it was a good read.

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                        @LucasWerkmeister anyway this is very much a tradition we're in favor of Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius-ing

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                        • lucaswerkmeister@wikis.worldL lucaswerkmeister@wikis.world

                          be that as it may, this year I learned:

                          • Michelangelo was standing, not lying down, while painting the Sistine Chapel ceiling (I probably read this before but had partially forgotten it again)

                          • the electrocution of Topsy the Elephant was not an anti-alternating current demonstration organized by Thomas A. Edison during the war of the currents

                          • the dodo’s intelligence was above average for an avian, and also its meat was inedible

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                          @LucasWerkmeister For me, the one thing that stood out most is that mice prefer to eat sweet sugary things over cheese.

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