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Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

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  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

    Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

    If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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    #13

    @thomasfuchs Not only are they greedy b****s forcing people to buy stuff they wouldn't otherwise need but also abject cowards since the news was broken to customers, as always, with a no reply e-mail. They are scared of people telling them what they think. I dread no reply emails because they are mostly telling me I'm being forced to do something onerous/massively inconvenient or something is being taken away from me.

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

      If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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      #14

      @thomasfuchs typical EOL stuff. Download your library on the device and you can still use it. That's not a surprising thing a user of that service should complain about.

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      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

        Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

        If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

        https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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        #15

        @thomasfuchs I already changed.

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        • magnetichuman@cupoftea.socialM magnetichuman@cupoftea.social

          @thomasfuchs Tech companies "Say hello to our new CEO, Terry the Industrial Waste Mulcher!"

          brad@1040ste.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @magnetichuman @thomasfuchs We'll let 'em use tomato sauce, we aren't monsters 😄

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          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

            Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

            If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

            https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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            #17

            @thomasfuchs sadly didn't made it completely into the CRA but EU is on the right track there

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            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

              Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

              If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

              https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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              #18

              @thomasfuchs same for Roomba… sigh.

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              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                #19

                @thomasfuchs
                A helpful reminder that digital goods don't "exist". Access is only at the benevolent grace of EvilCorp ass-hats, non perpetual untouchable for your children and friends.

                Give real books a try. They're easy on the eyes and never become e-waste.

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                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                  Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                  If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

                  m750@better.bostonM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #20

                  @thomasfuchs I can tell you what I won't be doing, and that is buying a replacement. Like my nest thermostat, I'll be replacing it with a device off their network.

                  Less reason to have Amazon devices in my house.

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                    If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                    #21

                    @thomasfuchs Also EOL plan - what exactly happens to the obsolete device (recycling etc.). This would be valid for all products, not just devices.

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                    • smn@l3ib.orgS smn@l3ib.org

                      @thomasfuchs I agree with you completely. However, also in this case:

                      🏴‍☠️ "Oh, no! Anyway..."

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                      #22

                      @smn@l3ib.org @thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                      if buying isn't owning…

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                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                        Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                        If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                        https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                        #23

                        @thomasfuchs it would suffice if the law doesn't punish hacking or reverse engineering them. Too many countries have followed the US laws that basically result in "you don't own what you bought". If those disappear, people will find ways to continue using those products.

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                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                          Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                          If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                          https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                          #24

                          I think he should insert them as suppositories.

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                          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                            Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                            If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                            https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                            #25

                            @thomasfuchs +9001%

                            Same goes for any #copyright|ed material: If the IP holder refuses to #license it anew all #copyrights should be null and void and the #SourceCode be forcibly published under #0BSD!

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                            • mihamarkic@mastodon.socialM mihamarkic@mastodon.social

                              @thomasfuchs Also EOL plan - what exactly happens to the obsolete device (recycling etc.). This would be valid for all products, not just devices.

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                              #26

                              @mihamarkic @thomasfuchs There's no legitimate reason to #EoL almost all devices…

                              • We don't EoL pacemakers either!

                              https://jorts.horse/@kkarhan/116380079455752199

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                              • dnparadice@mastodon.socialD dnparadice@mastodon.social

                                @thomasfuchs Yes this is great and if they don't do it, in the future you can simply not give your money to billionaire a holes and their shitty companies with shitty policies in the first place. Try a free open source alternative and forego watching your gadgets turn into e waste.

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                                #27

                                @dnparadice @thomasfuchs I have been trying to 100 percent avoid Amazon, but with a lot of places to buy eBooks from, it's more walled gardens. Kobo requires their own hardware or an Adobe ID. The books I want to buy are rarely available at other sources. I have tried so much, but everything is so complicated and time consuming and in the end I'm not owning my books.
                                I am back to sailing the high seas and instead of paying publishers I'm donating to the authors directly. If they offer that.

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                                • mijndert@toot.communityM mijndert@toot.community

                                  @thomasfuchs same for Roomba… sigh.

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                                  #28

                                  @mijndert @thomasfuchs And this is why I bought a roomba that isn't connected. It doesn't care about servers shutting down because it doesn't know about the internet.

                                  Old tech is sadly sometimes more reliable.

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                                  • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

                                    @magnetichuman @thomasfuchs We'll let 'em use tomato sauce, we aren't monsters 😄

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                                    #29

                                    @brad @thomasfuchs employees say Terry is the best CEO they can remember

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                                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                      Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                                      If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                                      #30

                                      @thomasfuchs and all schematics and documents should be given to states in case the company doesn't survive.

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                                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                        Companies should be required by law to completely open devices when they end support for them

                                        If they don’t, the penalty should be that the CEO has to eat the bricked devices

                                        https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/09/amazon-upsets-book-lovers-by-ending-support-for-old-kindles

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                                        #31

                                        @thomasfuchs @Gargron
                                        Yes, with these tweaks:
                                        1) The law should say they are automatically open on lack of support.
                                        2) Details on opening devices is kept as a wind down plan.

                                        This covers collapsing companies and closing legal entities as well as lazy ones moving on.

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                                        • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

                                          @mihamarkic @thomasfuchs There's no legitimate reason to #EoL almost all devices…

                                          • We don't EoL pacemakers either!

                                          https://jorts.horse/@kkarhan/116380079455752199

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                                          #32

                                          @kkarhan @thomasfuchs Not forcibly, but eventually every device meets its end.

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