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  • elena@aseachange.comE This user is from outside of this forum
    elena@aseachange.comE This user is from outside of this forum
    elena@aseachange.com
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    #1

    #Signal troubleshooting - very odd support conversation

    Yesterday afternoon I had a quick video call with someone using Signal and then I went to pick up my child from an afternoon summer program.

    When I got home I realized that my phone wasn't receiving any new messages on Signal... but my computer was. Signal on my phone was completely frozen.

    I followed a prompt and sent the most recent log to their support email. Then carried on with my life.

    At some point, 2 hours later, I had a eureka moment: the last thing that worked was a call. Let's try the same thing.

    So I called my mom and hung up (she was in the same room as me). After the call, all the Signal messages that had accumulated during the afternoon magically synched. Everything worked again! And then I found a new message by Signal saying "Welcome to the official Signal release chat!" Ok.

    Glad I was distracted by my child and dinner because when I checked my email, I found a response from Signal support: "It appears the database is irrecoverably damaged. Unfortunately you will need to completely uninstall and then reinstall Signal. This will delete your message history. It cannot be recovered."

    Say what? 😳​

    So I wrote back to Signal that I had fixed my issue by simply starting a call and then all the messages started synching again. I thanked them for their speedy reply and said everything was ok.

    I did the bedtime routine for my child and before bed I checked my email again.

    Two identical emails from Signal:

    "Hello. We understand your frustration. We feel it too" HUH?

    "There is no specific timeline for a resolution at this moment." WHAT RESOLUTION, I SAID I FIXED THE PROBLEM?

    "Please keep in mind we are a small team and have limitations as a non-profit organization. Uninstalling and reinstalling is the only action available."

    I feel for you Signal and I'm super grateful for all you do, but maybe your LLM support system needs some tweaking. Because this has got to be some LLM that misunderstood my reply.

    Thank goodness I didn't wipe 6 years' worth of messages, gaaah.

    Signal has been working perfectly ever since. Still, I'm now compiling a list of people I message on there as a contingency plan, should thing go awry again.

    I've been using #DeltaChat more lately and more and really love it.

    one more tale for #MySoCalledSudoLife

    #NoAI #LLM

    uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU kaio@piaille.frK aleksei@social.fakeplastictrees.eeA 3 Replies Last reply
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    • elena@aseachange.comE elena@aseachange.com

      #Signal troubleshooting - very odd support conversation

      Yesterday afternoon I had a quick video call with someone using Signal and then I went to pick up my child from an afternoon summer program.

      When I got home I realized that my phone wasn't receiving any new messages on Signal... but my computer was. Signal on my phone was completely frozen.

      I followed a prompt and sent the most recent log to their support email. Then carried on with my life.

      At some point, 2 hours later, I had a eureka moment: the last thing that worked was a call. Let's try the same thing.

      So I called my mom and hung up (she was in the same room as me). After the call, all the Signal messages that had accumulated during the afternoon magically synched. Everything worked again! And then I found a new message by Signal saying "Welcome to the official Signal release chat!" Ok.

      Glad I was distracted by my child and dinner because when I checked my email, I found a response from Signal support: "It appears the database is irrecoverably damaged. Unfortunately you will need to completely uninstall and then reinstall Signal. This will delete your message history. It cannot be recovered."

      Say what? 😳​

      So I wrote back to Signal that I had fixed my issue by simply starting a call and then all the messages started synching again. I thanked them for their speedy reply and said everything was ok.

      I did the bedtime routine for my child and before bed I checked my email again.

      Two identical emails from Signal:

      "Hello. We understand your frustration. We feel it too" HUH?

      "There is no specific timeline for a resolution at this moment." WHAT RESOLUTION, I SAID I FIXED THE PROBLEM?

      "Please keep in mind we are a small team and have limitations as a non-profit organization. Uninstalling and reinstalling is the only action available."

      I feel for you Signal and I'm super grateful for all you do, but maybe your LLM support system needs some tweaking. Because this has got to be some LLM that misunderstood my reply.

      Thank goodness I didn't wipe 6 years' worth of messages, gaaah.

      Signal has been working perfectly ever since. Still, I'm now compiling a list of people I message on there as a contingency plan, should thing go awry again.

      I've been using #DeltaChat more lately and more and really love it.

      one more tale for #MySoCalledSudoLife

      #NoAI #LLM

      uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
      uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
      uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @elena https://keinpfusch.net/chat-control-e-il-mito-dell-e2e

      In generale ti conviene fare selfhosting di un server matrix leggero, tipo conduit.

      --
      Uriel Fanelli
      Using Aktor: https://git.keinpfusch.net/loweel/Aktor-2
      XMPP: uriel@keinpfusch.net
      old blog: https://blog.keinpfusch.net
      new blog: https://keinpfusch.net

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      • elena@aseachange.comE elena@aseachange.com

        #Signal troubleshooting - very odd support conversation

        Yesterday afternoon I had a quick video call with someone using Signal and then I went to pick up my child from an afternoon summer program.

        When I got home I realized that my phone wasn't receiving any new messages on Signal... but my computer was. Signal on my phone was completely frozen.

        I followed a prompt and sent the most recent log to their support email. Then carried on with my life.

        At some point, 2 hours later, I had a eureka moment: the last thing that worked was a call. Let's try the same thing.

        So I called my mom and hung up (she was in the same room as me). After the call, all the Signal messages that had accumulated during the afternoon magically synched. Everything worked again! And then I found a new message by Signal saying "Welcome to the official Signal release chat!" Ok.

        Glad I was distracted by my child and dinner because when I checked my email, I found a response from Signal support: "It appears the database is irrecoverably damaged. Unfortunately you will need to completely uninstall and then reinstall Signal. This will delete your message history. It cannot be recovered."

        Say what? 😳​

        So I wrote back to Signal that I had fixed my issue by simply starting a call and then all the messages started synching again. I thanked them for their speedy reply and said everything was ok.

        I did the bedtime routine for my child and before bed I checked my email again.

        Two identical emails from Signal:

        "Hello. We understand your frustration. We feel it too" HUH?

        "There is no specific timeline for a resolution at this moment." WHAT RESOLUTION, I SAID I FIXED THE PROBLEM?

        "Please keep in mind we are a small team and have limitations as a non-profit organization. Uninstalling and reinstalling is the only action available."

        I feel for you Signal and I'm super grateful for all you do, but maybe your LLM support system needs some tweaking. Because this has got to be some LLM that misunderstood my reply.

        Thank goodness I didn't wipe 6 years' worth of messages, gaaah.

        Signal has been working perfectly ever since. Still, I'm now compiling a list of people I message on there as a contingency plan, should thing go awry again.

        I've been using #DeltaChat more lately and more and really love it.

        one more tale for #MySoCalledSudoLife

        #NoAI #LLM

        kaio@piaille.frK This user is from outside of this forum
        kaio@piaille.frK This user is from outside of this forum
        kaio@piaille.fr
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @elena "Please keep in mind we are a small team and have limitations as a non-profit organization."

        Meanwhile the small team with limitations paying themselve from $460,097 to $743,531 a year with donations and every year it is more and more...

        https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/824506840

        Disgusting.

        elena@aseachange.comE srgesus@mastodon.socialS w_b@mastodon.worldW 3 Replies Last reply
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        • kaio@piaille.frK kaio@piaille.fr

          @elena "Please keep in mind we are a small team and have limitations as a non-profit organization."

          Meanwhile the small team with limitations paying themselve from $460,097 to $743,531 a year with donations and every year it is more and more...

          https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/824506840

          Disgusting.

          elena@aseachange.comE This user is from outside of this forum
          elena@aseachange.comE This user is from outside of this forum
          elena@aseachange.com
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @kaio I know, sigh

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          • elena@aseachange.comE elena@aseachange.com

            #Signal troubleshooting - very odd support conversation

            Yesterday afternoon I had a quick video call with someone using Signal and then I went to pick up my child from an afternoon summer program.

            When I got home I realized that my phone wasn't receiving any new messages on Signal... but my computer was. Signal on my phone was completely frozen.

            I followed a prompt and sent the most recent log to their support email. Then carried on with my life.

            At some point, 2 hours later, I had a eureka moment: the last thing that worked was a call. Let's try the same thing.

            So I called my mom and hung up (she was in the same room as me). After the call, all the Signal messages that had accumulated during the afternoon magically synched. Everything worked again! And then I found a new message by Signal saying "Welcome to the official Signal release chat!" Ok.

            Glad I was distracted by my child and dinner because when I checked my email, I found a response from Signal support: "It appears the database is irrecoverably damaged. Unfortunately you will need to completely uninstall and then reinstall Signal. This will delete your message history. It cannot be recovered."

            Say what? 😳​

            So I wrote back to Signal that I had fixed my issue by simply starting a call and then all the messages started synching again. I thanked them for their speedy reply and said everything was ok.

            I did the bedtime routine for my child and before bed I checked my email again.

            Two identical emails from Signal:

            "Hello. We understand your frustration. We feel it too" HUH?

            "There is no specific timeline for a resolution at this moment." WHAT RESOLUTION, I SAID I FIXED THE PROBLEM?

            "Please keep in mind we are a small team and have limitations as a non-profit organization. Uninstalling and reinstalling is the only action available."

            I feel for you Signal and I'm super grateful for all you do, but maybe your LLM support system needs some tweaking. Because this has got to be some LLM that misunderstood my reply.

            Thank goodness I didn't wipe 6 years' worth of messages, gaaah.

            Signal has been working perfectly ever since. Still, I'm now compiling a list of people I message on there as a contingency plan, should thing go awry again.

            I've been using #DeltaChat more lately and more and really love it.

            one more tale for #MySoCalledSudoLife

            #NoAI #LLM

            aleksei@social.fakeplastictrees.eeA This user is from outside of this forum
            aleksei@social.fakeplastictrees.eeA This user is from outside of this forum
            aleksei@social.fakeplastictrees.ee
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @elena It didn't even say "you're absolutely right! I shouldn't have suggested deleting your entire database." LLMs these days have no manners

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            • kaio@piaille.frK kaio@piaille.fr

              @elena "Please keep in mind we are a small team and have limitations as a non-profit organization."

              Meanwhile the small team with limitations paying themselve from $460,097 to $743,531 a year with donations and every year it is more and more...

              https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/824506840

              Disgusting.

              srgesus@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              srgesus@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              srgesus@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @kaio @elena Uh, yes that's quite a small amount of money for a team of signal's size lol

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              • kaio@piaille.frK kaio@piaille.fr

                @elena "Please keep in mind we are a small team and have limitations as a non-profit organization."

                Meanwhile the small team with limitations paying themselve from $460,097 to $743,531 a year with donations and every year it is more and more...

                https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/824506840

                Disgusting.

                w_b@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
                w_b@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
                w_b@mastodon.world
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @kaio @elena

                How are the still around, looking at the net revenue loss year after year

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