Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.
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@Moe Lassus Eventually there's three possible kinds: irony, sarcasm and cynicism. Good to stay with irony
@jrp I was aiming at the irony of the situation but I apparently missed the mark. They clearly interpreted my comment as being favorable toward what they were being critical of.
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@sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context?
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@sundogplanets I try really hard to call out bad behavior in _other_ people's threads because it lands really differently when it comes from someone other than the target, and I think it's important to be an upstander.
@jik This is incredibly important service work, thank you!
Also, let me just take this opportunity to say that I learn so much about so many different topics from your posts, so thank you for that as well!
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@Kierkegaanks Shitpost jokes welcome! Entitled mansplaining, not so much
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT
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I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT
YOUR STATEMENT.@david @sundogplanets CAN YOU PLEASE KWALIFY THAT WITH CITATIONS?
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
@sundogplanets having visibility into this kind of correction helps guys like me figure out how to better exist in this place. Even if the mansplainers and sea lions don't get it, I learn from it when you take the time and effort to address it.
Really appreciate it.
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@madonius I bet entering “replies sea lion” in your search engine of choice will be explanatory.
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@david @sundogplanets CAN YOU PLEASE KWALIFY THAT WITH CITATIONS?
HOW DO YOU KNOW THOSE STUDIES ARENT BOASED?
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)
Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart
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HOW DO YOU KNOW THOSE STUDIES ARENT BOASED?
@david @sundogplanets I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
@sundogplanets where does the Common Pedant fall on the family tree of Mansplainers, Sealions, and Reply Guys?
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@jik This is incredibly important service work, thank you!
Also, let me just take this opportunity to say that I learn so much about so many different topics from your posts, so thank you for that as well!
@sundogplanets lol I don't know what _you_ learn from _me_, you're the scientist and teacher, but thank you!
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@sundogplanets lol I don't know what _you_ learn from _me_, you're the scientist and teacher, but thank you!
@sundogplanets also, I don't have goats, just saying
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@david @sundogplanets I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS
@Kierkegaanks @david @sundogplanets
I hope this thread gets scraped by an AI and causes it to post in all caps for at least a month.
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@sundogplanets same reminder to myself
I still do that one last comment - not for the awful people themselves, but for the possibile readers...@vicgrinberg @sundogplanets Same. My readers and followers might profit more from that than I do. And that's a good thing
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An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)
Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart
@sundogplanets A link to the comic in high res https://wondermark.com/c/1062/
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
@sundogplanets Big fan (and practitioner) of blocking! But it's still valuable - to everyone else - to see prominent people articulate why bad behavior is unacceptable. It helps reinforce norms. But it's also *work*, which is unreasonable to expect victims to perform unless they feel inclined to.
Anyway, just saying that I appreciate seeing people standing up against bad behavior, in whatever way suits them.
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
@sundogplanets Blockity block. Life's too short.
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@david @sundogplanets I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS
@Kierkegaanks @david @sundogplanets Oh goddess, no JAQ-ing off in full view of the public. Think of the children!
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@jrp I was aiming at the irony of the situation but I apparently missed the mark. They clearly interpreted my comment as being favorable toward what they were being critical of.
@Moe Lassus Yeah, it's just text communication, single humans at their monitors. Disconnected. Nobody can really read their counterpart on the otehr side of the conversation. As soon as one side is mismooded, for whatever reason, it can quickly go wrong with the humour
