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  • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

    Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
    While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
    MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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    #4

    @QasimRashid so is this males only, or all sexes?

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    • queenofthecroneage@beige.partyQ queenofthecroneage@beige.party

      @QasimRashid

      Wait. Pentagon is reinstating the draft in Dec? Isn't registering the same thing as reinstatement?

      Is this new? What'd I miss.

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      #5

      @QueenOfTheCroneAge @QasimRashid It’s automation of Selective Service System registration I believe. So not a draft itself, but the system that would be used if a draft were instated to know the pool of people to draft from. Today it’s a manual process to register initially and to tell them when you move, etc.

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      • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

        Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
        While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
        MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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        #6

        @QasimRashid I guess I'm a little slow. Requirements to register for military service aren't decided by the Pentagon or the Sec of Def or anyone else & no single person can dictate that any form of automatic registration can occur. Though fragile, this country still has a body of legislators who are tasked with making laws, even those that decide who must register for military service. Hegseth can make all the announcements he wants, but he doesn't make laws. Why would your post not say this?

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        • lemniscate@infosec.exchangeL lemniscate@infosec.exchange

          @QueenOfTheCroneAge @QasimRashid It’s automation of Selective Service System registration I believe. So not a draft itself, but the system that would be used if a draft were instated to know the pool of people to draft from. Today it’s a manual process to register initially and to tell them when you move, etc.

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          #7

          @Lemniscate @QueenOfTheCroneAge @QasimRashid

          Who up till now has been required to register?

          And has non-registration been a criminal offence?

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          • skua@mastodon.socialS skua@mastodon.social

            @Lemniscate @QueenOfTheCroneAge @QasimRashid

            Who up till now has been required to register?

            And has non-registration been a criminal offence?

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            #8

            @skua @Lemniscate @QasimRashid

            Yeah I still feel like this should be a bigger deal. I seems like I'm still missing something.

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            • pattyhanson@mastodon.socialP pattyhanson@mastodon.social

              @QasimRashid I guess I'm a little slow. Requirements to register for military service aren't decided by the Pentagon or the Sec of Def or anyone else & no single person can dictate that any form of automatic registration can occur. Though fragile, this country still has a body of legislators who are tasked with making laws, even those that decide who must register for military service. Hegseth can make all the announcements he wants, but he doesn't make laws. Why would your post not say this?

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              #9

              @PattyHanson @QasimRashid while the US government has been treating every Executive Order as if it is the law since 47's been back in office, Pete isn't the president. It should also be noted that it's not legally binding and will 100% be challenged in court if it comes down to them trying to make it real without going through proper channels.

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              • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                #10

                @QasimRashid Is the GI Bill still a thing? This could backfire on ol' Hegsworth.

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                • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                  Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                  While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                  MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                  #11

                  @QasimRashid

                  Barron Trump first.

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                  • queenofthecroneage@beige.partyQ queenofthecroneage@beige.party

                    @skua @Lemniscate @QasimRashid

                    Yeah I still feel like this should be a bigger deal. I seems like I'm still missing something.

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                    #12

                    @QueenOfTheCroneAge @skua @QasimRashid I am far from an expert, I had just looked into it at one point because of a younger family member. Current scope of who must register: https://www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/ My understanding is that it is a federal law to register and the site below claims that failure to do so is technically a felony, but the DoJ has suspended investigations and prosecutions around potential cases since 1986 https://hasbrouck.org/draft/advice/threatening-letters.html. There are some other implications still relevant, such as for people who want a federal job.

                    From something I read previously, it sounds like a large number of people in scope either never register at all or they do but then never update their address after moving. I suspect they want to automate it at least in part to stop people from avoiding it. (There are, of course, lawmakers claiming it will ‘save money’ and ‘be easier’.) As for immigrants in scope, given the current administration’s bullshit, I’d assume DHS would be thrilled to use registration avoidance as another excuse to deport people.

                    As for the legal mechanism for the automation, it was an item in the 2026 National Defense Authorization Act bill signed into law last year. It looks like it was in a 2024 bill as well, but I guess it got removed from that one.

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                    • lemniscate@infosec.exchangeL lemniscate@infosec.exchange

                      @QueenOfTheCroneAge @skua @QasimRashid I am far from an expert, I had just looked into it at one point because of a younger family member. Current scope of who must register: https://www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/ My understanding is that it is a federal law to register and the site below claims that failure to do so is technically a felony, but the DoJ has suspended investigations and prosecutions around potential cases since 1986 https://hasbrouck.org/draft/advice/threatening-letters.html. There are some other implications still relevant, such as for people who want a federal job.

                      From something I read previously, it sounds like a large number of people in scope either never register at all or they do but then never update their address after moving. I suspect they want to automate it at least in part to stop people from avoiding it. (There are, of course, lawmakers claiming it will ‘save money’ and ‘be easier’.) As for immigrants in scope, given the current administration’s bullshit, I’d assume DHS would be thrilled to use registration avoidance as another excuse to deport people.

                      As for the legal mechanism for the automation, it was an item in the 2026 National Defense Authorization Act bill signed into law last year. It looks like it was in a 2024 bill as well, but I guess it got removed from that one.

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                      #13

                      @Lemniscate @skua @QasimRashid

                      Wow! Thank you!

                      It sounds like another way for this admin to accrue more data, do more damage.

                      He's a TRAITOR traitor. In my bones I know it

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                      • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                        Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                        While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                        MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                        #14

                        @QasimRashid

                        Don't forget that on December 14 2025 Canada changed its citizenship laws. Anyone with a Canadian citizen as a parent is automatically a citizen, and can file the paperwork to prove they have a Canadian parent and get their Canadian passport.

                        Anyone who has a Canadian ancestor who has not renounced their Canadian citizenship can apply for Canadian citizenship as well.

                        Canada is the land of the free.

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                        • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                          Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                          While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                          MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                          #15

                          @QasimRashid I think this can be also one of the ways people's rights are being violated.
                          Several young people who would work hard to make this wounded planet a better place for everyone to live are being forced to join army and fight the battles of the grown up men who will be deing soon and due to their age.
                          I suggest that the government should not force anyone to join government work that is highly risking their lives but encourage and support them for the betterment of this planet.

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                          • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                            Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                            While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                            MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                            #16

                            @QasimRashid The other absurdity is its assertion of such service being applicable to immigrants who are also at risk of being detained by ICE and deported to illegal American Gulags off-shore somewhere.

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                            • pelha@mstdn.socialP pelha@mstdn.social

                              @QasimRashid so is this males only, or all sexes?

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                              #17

                              @pelha @QasimRashid Male only

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                              • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                                Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                                While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                                MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                                #18
                                @QasimRashid Automatic vote registration? Nah, they need to have the ability to selectively disenfranchise voters. Automatic tax calculation? They need to extort people into financing their lobbyists at Intuit. Now that is something worth investing on, how else would they get enough cannon fodder for the upcoming wars? (My country, fortunately, does the opposite of all of the above)
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                                • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                                  Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                                  While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                                  MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                                  #19

                                  @QasimRashid

                                  I'd rather go to jail than go to war, fuck this war.

                                  Genuine Garbage!

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                                  • lemniscate@infosec.exchangeL lemniscate@infosec.exchange

                                    @QueenOfTheCroneAge @skua @QasimRashid I am far from an expert, I had just looked into it at one point because of a younger family member. Current scope of who must register: https://www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/ My understanding is that it is a federal law to register and the site below claims that failure to do so is technically a felony, but the DoJ has suspended investigations and prosecutions around potential cases since 1986 https://hasbrouck.org/draft/advice/threatening-letters.html. There are some other implications still relevant, such as for people who want a federal job.

                                    From something I read previously, it sounds like a large number of people in scope either never register at all or they do but then never update their address after moving. I suspect they want to automate it at least in part to stop people from avoiding it. (There are, of course, lawmakers claiming it will ‘save money’ and ‘be easier’.) As for immigrants in scope, given the current administration’s bullshit, I’d assume DHS would be thrilled to use registration avoidance as another excuse to deport people.

                                    As for the legal mechanism for the automation, it was an item in the 2026 National Defense Authorization Act bill signed into law last year. It looks like it was in a 2024 bill as well, but I guess it got removed from that one.

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                                    #20

                                    @Lemniscate @QueenOfTheCroneAge @skua @QasimRashid

                                    A lot of US states directly link getting a driver's license with registration.

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                                    • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                                      Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                                      While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                                      MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                                      @QasimRashid I presume this applies to any and all genders of course

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                                        @QasimRashid

                                        Don't forget that on December 14 2025 Canada changed its citizenship laws. Anyone with a Canadian citizen as a parent is automatically a citizen, and can file the paperwork to prove they have a Canadian parent and get their Canadian passport.

                                        Anyone who has a Canadian ancestor who has not renounced their Canadian citizenship can apply for Canadian citizenship as well.

                                        Canada is the land of the free.

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                                        #22

                                        @barbra @QasimRashid i'm Canadian and didn't know this, thaqnks for the info

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                                        • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                                          Hegseth announces automatic registration for US military draft to begin in December. Any immigrant who doesn't register within 30 days of turning 18 can be criminally charged.
                                          While absurd, practically speaking all this does is show MAGA hypocrisy. Somehow automatic voter registration isn’t possible—but automatic registration for the draft program is both possible and now required.
                                          MAGAs don't want to make it easier for young people to vote—just easier for them to die in Trump's illegal wars.

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                                          #23

                                          @QasimRashid I thought you didn't qualify to have to register if you're a non-citizen? Or is this specifically impacting naturalised citizens?

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