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  3. Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere.

Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere.

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  • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

    Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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    #26

    @kottke Good news!

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    • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

      Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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      #27

      @kottke Fuck yes! Finally!

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      • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

        Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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        #28

        @kottke if only all software was required to include the tools for maintenance, diagnosis, and repairs.

        Ever wondered why there are no third party repair shops for software? It's because almost all software is locked up like John Deere's tractors. Only the owner of the software is allowed to fix issues and it is not you.

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        • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

          Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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          #29

          @kottke yippie

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          • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

            Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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            #30

            @kottke only 99 Million? So it paid off as they for sure made more money than this by locking everything down. I expected something like 500 Billion.
            Oh well, then companies will continue doing this.

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            • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

              Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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              #31

              @kottke meanwhile in Oklahoma, https://www.kgou.org/oklahoma-right-to-repair-bill-fails

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              • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                #32

                @kottke Fuck yeah

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                • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                  Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                  #33

                  @kottke oh wow

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                  • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

                    @claudius @kottke yeah, that is the problem…

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                    #34

                    @kkarhan @claudius @kottke hopefully the legal precedent this sets is still valuable.

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                    • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                      Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                      #35

                      @kottke that's about 150 tractors. that's absolutely nothing to John Deere.

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                      • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                        Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                        #36

                        @kottke
                        What happens after the 10 years are up? Every John Deere piece of equipment explodes, killing everyone near them at the time?

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                        • terrorbite@meow.socialT terrorbite@meow.social

                          @kkarhan @claudius @kottke hopefully the legal precedent this sets is still valuable.

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                          #37

                          @TerrorBite @kkarhan @claudius @kottke
                          No precedent. It's a settlement before judgement.

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                          • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                            Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                            #38

                            @kottke
                            I think they John Deere should just be barred from selling unless they open the protocols/APIs/ABIs.

                            Should be like that for all tech, actually.

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                            • effariwhy@theforkiverse.comE effariwhy@theforkiverse.com

                              @kottke Maybe farmers should stop voting for the conservatives who keep allowing companies to do whatever they want. Imagine not having to sue in the first place, only to get back "somewhere between 26% and 53% of overcharge damages".

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                              #39

                              @effariwhy @kottke Not sure how it's in NA. Here in Germany most farmers don't even manage to be part of a lobby group that doesn't openly shoot them in the foot, let alone *not* being WAY too hard right-leaning. This definitely is some cultural / educational phenomenon all over the place (or at least in western societies) that should be studied.

                              Fortunately there's a counter-culture to it incl. a proper lobby group, mostly carried by young farmers.

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                              • beachbum@mastodon.sdf.orgB beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @kottke John Deere needs to start making an electric tractor so farmers aren’t dependent on diesel.

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                                #40

                                @Beachbum @kottke As with trucks (or "semi-trucks" as the US calls them - the big ones) the energy density and charge speed is the problem here. Tractors require intense amounts of power constantly, and there's rarely the opportunity for recuperation through breaking on fields. Additionally they have to work all day. I'm not aware of any battery technology that could handle these demands, nor some sort of mobile charging system that would be sufficiently out-of-the-way (like trucks have).

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                                • a_cubed@mastodon.socialA a_cubed@mastodon.social

                                  @TerrorBite @kkarhan @claudius @kottke
                                  No precedent. It's a settlement before judgement.

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                                  #41

                                  @a_cubed @TerrorBite @claudius @kottke Eeyupp…

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