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  • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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    #2

    @lokeloski And like I said the last time I saw it: no one considers asking the script writer or the concept artist or whatever... because when they do it's always boring stuff like "oh I just need to know what scene this character last appeared in, and I can do that with Ctrl+F"

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    • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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      #3

      @lokeloski My job says we should only use it if we already have expertise on the subject... in which case, why use it at all?

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      • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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        #4

        @lokeloski the lack of artist solidarity stings here...those people think everyone else but them can be replaced by an LLM...foolish creatures

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        • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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          #5

          @lokeloski
          Here at the "extremely cheap marketing" department, we tell people that it's okay to use gen AI for everything.

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          • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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            #6

            @lokeloski

            It's the Gell-Mann amnesia effect all over again.

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            The Gell-Mann amnesia effect is a claimed cognitive bias describing the tendency of individuals to critically assess media reports in a domain they are knowledgeable about, yet continue to trust reporting in other areas despite recognizing similar potential inaccuracies.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect

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            • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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              #7

              @lokeloski GenAI is like a filler, like Bondo. It can take something roughly shaped like the thing you want and smooth it out in all places - but at no point will it actually create things. And like many car fixers that start using filler will tell you, if you use a lot of filler you don't end up with anything functional.

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              • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                #8

                @lokeloski the subtext here is also that at least some artists do not consider other artistic fields "real" art

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                • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                  #9

                  @lokeloski dev seems to be the only one thinking they can replace their own job with AI and everything will be fine

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                    #10

                    @lokeloski Really kind of gets back to cultural acceptance of the idea of "unskilled labor", labor as just something that can be swapped out and dehumanized, merely a resource, a tool, not a high-context manifestation of human effort.

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                    • mynameistillian@plush.cityM mynameistillian@plush.city

                      @lokeloski the lack of artist solidarity stings here...those people think everyone else but them can be replaced by an LLM...foolish creatures

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                      #11

                      @mynameistillian @lokeloski

                      The machines can deal with the rules and the humans will always be better at handling the exceptions.

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                      • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                        #12

                        @lokeloski
                        https://bsky.app/profile/magicmooshka.bsky.social/post/3mbyyc2lhg22s

                        The person who wrote it apparently!

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                        • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @lokeloski dev seems to be the only one thinking they can replace their own job with AI and everything will be fine

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                          @gkrnours @lokeloski I think that's a niche effect, like considering all the OP to be "creators" and asking why they all think LLMs can do their jobs.

                          A C++ developer might think that LLM generated Python code is no worse than what they'd write, while a Python dev thinks the same about C++ code. They can both be right, because their cross-field abilities are low.

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                            @lokeloski I've said more than once that AI is a genius at everything except those subjects you know a lot about. 😉

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                            • faoluin@chitter.xyzF faoluin@chitter.xyz

                              @lokeloski My job says we should only use it if we already have expertise on the subject... in which case, why use it at all?

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                              @faoluin @lokeloski we can either use it for writing code or writing tests, either way we're entirely responsible for what we contribute.

                              The junior-ish who was wildly excited is now regretting his decision to spend more time writing tests and at least originally he hoped to spend less time writing code. But the joy of being a junior is that you learn so much so fast!

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                              • lokeloski@mastodon.socialL lokeloski@mastodon.social

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                                @lokeloski

                                AKA? AI usage is driven by the Dunning-Kruger effect…

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                                  @lokeloski AI generation is a useful facimile in a place where nothing would have also been a more or less acceptable alternative.

                                  Which begs the question as to why we're wasting so much money on it.

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                                    @lokeloski Nice! It's like the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect, but for AI output.

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                                      @lokeloski Interesting I've also observed a dynamic where if someone - most commonly programmers - sees an LLM producing output that passes initial inspection or does something that they would consider a mark of human-level competence, there's a chance that they're completely beguiled by it and conclude from that point on that LLMs are now basically operating at approximately that competence level across *all fields*. The psychodynamics of it are really alarming and, clearly, socially corrosive.

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                                        #20

                                        @lokeloski

                                        This is why CEOs assume it can do everything, because they don't know how to do anything.

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                                          @lokeloski and CEOs think it can replace everything. I wonder why...

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