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  • S softwaretheron@mas.to

    @The_Universality @Tutanota

    "I have nothing to hide."

    "How many guns do you own?"

    the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #63

    @SoftwareTheron @Tutanota Two crossbows!

    ...

    Wait.

    WAIT!

    (This is actually the first time someone suggested this. But I wouldn't find this one that harmful.)

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    • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

      @SoftwareTheron @Tutanota Two crossbows!

      ...

      Wait.

      WAIT!

      (This is actually the first time someone suggested this. But I wouldn't find this one that harmful.)

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      softwaretheron@mas.to
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      #64

      @The_Universality @Tutanota
      Perhaps you remember "the gummint's coming for our guns!!" ?

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      • S softwaretheron@mas.to

        @The_Universality @Tutanota
        Perhaps you remember "the gummint's coming for our guns!!" ?

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        #65

        @SoftwareTheron No. This is the first time I hear about this.

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        • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

          @SoftwareTheron No. This is the first time I hear about this.

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          softwaretheron@mas.to
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          #66

          @The_Universality
          Too American, perhaps? (Not that I am.)
          Or maybe too old.

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          • S softwaretheron@mas.to

            @The_Universality
            Too American, perhaps? (Not that I am.)
            Or maybe too old.

            the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #67

            @SoftwareTheron I'm from EU Member State and not even old.

            Still I don't know to what event is that refering to nor what were the arguments.

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            • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

              @SoftwareTheron I'm from EU Member State and not even old.

              Still I don't know to what event is that refering to nor what were the arguments.

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              softwaretheron@mas.to
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              #68

              @The_Universality
              I'm old.

              There was, and probably still is, a claim among some right-wing Americans that they have guns to protect them from the state, and that the state is continually trying to constrain their ownership of weapons.

              The same people claim(-ed) to believe strongly that only those with something to hide should be frightened by intrusive law enforcement and data-gathering. Generally, what they actually meant was "The cops are on our side and we should be able to know everything about you". Especially in an LGBTQ+ context. Not illegal, but being strongly resisted by exactly these people.

              I wish I'd thought to point this contradiction out to them when I knew some, in the very early days of social media.

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              • S softwaretheron@mas.to

                @The_Universality
                I'm old.

                There was, and probably still is, a claim among some right-wing Americans that they have guns to protect them from the state, and that the state is continually trying to constrain their ownership of weapons.

                The same people claim(-ed) to believe strongly that only those with something to hide should be frightened by intrusive law enforcement and data-gathering. Generally, what they actually meant was "The cops are on our side and we should be able to know everything about you". Especially in an LGBTQ+ context. Not illegal, but being strongly resisted by exactly these people.

                I wish I'd thought to point this contradiction out to them when I knew some, in the very early days of social media.

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                #69

                @SoftwareTheron That is indeed contradicting statement from their side, then.

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  "I have nothing to hide."

                  False.

                  You have medical history

                  You have financial behavior

                  You have location patterns

                  You have political views

                  You have relationship data

                  Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                  orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  orca@nya.one
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #70
                  @Tutanota@mastodon.social
                  I hope the one saying that would stand by that when someone leaked their secrets.
                  Similarly for nation-states.
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                  • orca@nya.oneO orca@nya.one
                    @Tutanota@mastodon.social
                    I hope the one saying that would stand by that when someone leaked their secrets.
                    Similarly for nation-states.
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                    #71
                    @Tutanota@mastodon.social
                    They don't get to "right to know", "need to know" etc etc for them and "nothing to hide" for us.
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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      "I have nothing to hide."

                      False.

                      You have medical history

                      You have financial behavior

                      You have location patterns

                      You have political views

                      You have relationship data

                      Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                      radundtat@berlin.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #72

                      @Tutanota One of the reasons I recently moved all sensitive communications off Gmail: I had made a doctor's appointment and was subsequently presented with ads everywhere for conditions I made have because Gmail had registered me as going to that specialist. No separate Google searches on the issue, just one email and they targeted me accordingly. Gmail will use everything you do and write on that platform to feed their profile of you.

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                      • radundtat@berlin.socialR radundtat@berlin.social

                        @Tutanota One of the reasons I recently moved all sensitive communications off Gmail: I had made a doctor's appointment and was subsequently presented with ads everywhere for conditions I made have because Gmail had registered me as going to that specialist. No separate Google searches on the issue, just one email and they targeted me accordingly. Gmail will use everything you do and write on that platform to feed their profile of you.

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                        tutanota@mastodon.social
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                        #73

                        @radundtat Wow, that's incredible.

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          "I have nothing to hide."

                          False.

                          You have medical history

                          You have financial behavior

                          You have location patterns

                          You have political views

                          You have relationship data

                          Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                          gneilyo@mastodon.onlineG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          gneilyo@mastodon.online
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                          #74

                          @Tutanota What you feel you need to hide isn't really up to you. That's imposed on you by social and political circumstances and those change over time.

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            "I have nothing to hide."

                            False.

                            You have medical history

                            You have financial behavior

                            You have location patterns

                            You have political views

                            You have relationship data

                            Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                            patricksh@mas.toP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            patricksh@mas.to
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                            #75

                            @Tutanota The Tuta intern has been killing it lately.

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                            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                              "I have nothing to hide."

                              False.

                              You have medical history

                              You have financial behavior

                              You have location patterns

                              You have political views

                              You have relationship data

                              Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                              h0w25@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              h0w25@hachyderm.io
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                              #76

                              @Tutanota did you stole this phrase to someone else too?

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                              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                "I have nothing to hide."

                                False.

                                You have medical history

                                You have financial behavior

                                You have location patterns

                                You have political views

                                You have relationship data

                                Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                                xnhq@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                xnhq@mastodon.social
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                                #77

                                @Tutanota Stop! This is 100% true!

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                                • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com
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                                  #78

                                  @whybird @SoftwareTheron Hmmm.

                                  One could ask if they so conveniently forgotten about their task, whether they wished to fulfill it in the first place.

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                                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                    "I have nothing to hide."

                                    False.

                                    You have medical history

                                    You have financial behavior

                                    You have location patterns

                                    You have political views

                                    You have relationship data

                                    Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                                    qole@techhub.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    qole@techhub.social
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                                    #79

                                    @Tutanota
                                    Just as I lament the lack of basic understanding of the humanities (history, philosophy, ethics, the arts, etc) across the general public, I often wish that the general public understood basic opsec and digital hygiene. Why is it not taught in high schools?

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                                    • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                      @whybird @SoftwareTheron Hmmm.

                                      One could ask if they so conveniently forgotten about their task, whether they wished to fulfill it in the first place.

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                                      softwaretheron@mas.to
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                                      #80

                                      @The_Universality @whybird
                                      Oh for sure, it was always a lie.

                                      Not being able to rub their noses in it is the only thing I regret about not being in contact with them any more.

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                                      • qole@techhub.socialQ qole@techhub.social

                                        @Tutanota
                                        Just as I lament the lack of basic understanding of the humanities (history, philosophy, ethics, the arts, etc) across the general public, I often wish that the general public understood basic opsec and digital hygiene. Why is it not taught in high schools?

                                        jaker@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        jaker@c.im
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                                        #81

                                        @qole @Tutanota I read that as dental hygiene! But absolutely yes, this should be taught in high schools. The reason it isn't is because our school tech infrastructure in Wales UK is owned by Microsoft and Google.

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                                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                          "I have nothing to hide."

                                          False.

                                          You have medical history

                                          You have financial behavior

                                          You have location patterns

                                          You have political views

                                          You have relationship data

                                          Privacy was never about hiding crimes. It was always about owning your life.

                                          ingridausol@norden.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          ingridausol@norden.social
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                                          #82

                                          @Tutanota

                                          Ganz genau.

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