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Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off".

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  • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

    Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

    There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

    hamatti@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
    hamatti@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @liw I agree. I've had my devices on pretty much constant Do not disturb mode for the past 12 years.

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    • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

      Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

      There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

      lambda@chaosfurs.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @liw there seems to be a pretty big spectrum in how much individual people get distracted by notifications. I have notifications enabled for chat clients, email clients, fedi, etc (though on my phone without sound and mostly without vibration) and don't mind.

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      • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

        Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

        There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

        bix@chaos.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9

        @liw “$app wants to send you notifications, allow, don’t allow, settings” -> Don’t allow, *always*

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        • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

          Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

          There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

          hbons@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
          hbons@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          RE: https://toot.liw.fi/@liw/116103709639401895

          agree. did this for all messaging apps 6 months ago and it's been such a difference for the better.

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          • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

            Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

            There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

            lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL This user is from outside of this forum
            lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11
            @liw Yeah, hard-agree, only thing here that effectively has notifications is my feature phone.
            Otherwise it's non-urgent pretty much by definition.
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            • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

              Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

              There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

              trwnh@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              @liw some mail is serious! but otherwise, yes, i should explicitly opt in to being notified about emails. (i filter out most "non-important" things from my inbox, so if it lands in my inbox, it's probably important.)

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              • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

                Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

                There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

                neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @liw A sensible approach for sensible computing!

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                • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

                  Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

                  There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

                  joostvb@mastodon.greenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  @liw could not agree more, tnx for stating this

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                  • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

                    Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

                    There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

                    pilum@fedi.j1nk4l.comP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #15

                    @liw "Soandso is typing…"

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                    • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

                      Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

                      There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

                      aakoskin@bitwoods.duckdns.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #16

                      @liw I think terminal bell "on" is the most annoying default.

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                      • liw@toot.liw.fiL liw@toot.liw.fi

                        Hot take, so controversial it counts as trolling: all notifications should default "off". Anything that can interrupt or distract the person using a computer or other device should be explicitly turned on by that person.

                        There are exceptions for things that can cause serious harm if ignored. "You've got mail" is not an exception. Neither is "someone liked your social media post".

                        anygould@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #17

                        @liw Also - any audio notifications should have *some* way for me to ID what app did it.

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