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  3. Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

    The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

    Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

    freyalikesgirls@transfem.socialF ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.ukB gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG stiefel_fan@troet.cafeS geraintllanfrancheta@hachyderm.ioG 33 Replies Last reply
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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

      The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

      Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

      freyalikesgirls@transfem.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
      freyalikesgirls@transfem.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
      freyalikesgirls@transfem.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social LMAOOOOO
      that does not surprize me in the slightest btw

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

        The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

        Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

        ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
        ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
        ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @GossiTheDog Wasn't it the internet connected fridges that let the group into Target years ago?

        norombasic@mastodon.worldN 1 Reply Last reply
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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

          The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

          Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

          gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
          gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
          gossithedog@cyberplace.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          Shodan search: html:danfoss product:"nginx"

          The supermarket impacted today in France put all of their devices directly internet facing and all had the same password, today’s date.

          https://beta.shodan.io/search?query=html%3Adanfoss+product%3A%22nginx%22

          gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS hal8999@infosec.exchangeH thorium@social.linux.pizzaT xinit@mastodon.coffeeX 5 Replies Last reply
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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

            The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

            Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

            stiefel_fan@troet.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
            stiefel_fan@troet.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
            stiefel_fan@troet.cafe
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @GossiTheDog
            Well, it's not "123456"!😱🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

            csolisr@hub.azkware.netC 1 Reply Last reply
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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Shodan search: html:danfoss product:"nginx"

              The supermarket impacted today in France put all of their devices directly internet facing and all had the same password, today’s date.

              https://beta.shodan.io/search?query=html%3Adanfoss+product%3A%22nginx%22

              gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              gossithedog@cyberplace.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              To bypass login send a POST request to /xml.cgi, there’s a write up here: https://claroty.com/team82/research/freeze-the-controller-defrost-the-food-uncovering-vulnerabilities-in-danfoss-refrigeration-controllers

              gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF spartan_1986@infosec.exchangeS tuxicoman@social.jesuislibre.netT vickyjo@mastodon.socialV 5 Replies Last reply
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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                geraintllanfrancheta@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
                geraintllanfrancheta@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
                geraintllanfrancheta@hachyderm.io
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @GossiTheDog wtaf

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  To bypass login send a POST request to /xml.cgi, there’s a write up here: https://claroty.com/team82/research/freeze-the-controller-defrost-the-food-uncovering-vulnerabilities-in-danfoss-refrigeration-controllers

                  gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  gossithedog@cyberplace.social
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                  #8

                  I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

                  Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

                  bremner@mathstodon.xyzB gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG dylan@social.lolD tops@im-in.spaceT nixfreak@masto.hackers.townN 9 Replies Last reply
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                  • stiefel_fan@troet.cafeS stiefel_fan@troet.cafe

                    @GossiTheDog
                    Well, it's not "123456"!😱🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

                    csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
                    csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9
                    In a few years it will be 01/23/45 though
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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

                      Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

                      bremner@mathstodon.xyzB This user is from outside of this forum
                      bremner@mathstodon.xyzB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @GossiTheDog I mean, also some "credit" to people who thought connecting fridges to the internet was a good idea.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        To bypass login send a POST request to /xml.cgi, there’s a write up here: https://claroty.com/team82/research/freeze-the-controller-defrost-the-food-uncovering-vulnerabilities-in-danfoss-refrigeration-controllers

                        fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @GossiTheDog "System Manager AK-SM 800A software package v4.0x and above enhances your product's security features to meet internationally recognized regulations. Danfoss is now defaulting to a strong security posture and is following secure by design principles."

                        Snark aside, the list of security features they tout as being available with the new v4 in 'strict' mode is rather terrifying.

                        https://www.danfoss.com/en-us/service-and-support/downloads/dcs/adap-kool-software/ak-sm-800a/#tab-security

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

                          Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

                          gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                          gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                          gossithedog@cyberplace.social
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                          #12

                          Also there’s loads of speculation about if it’s Russia, China, Iran.

                          It’s likely a bored teen in their underpants in between Roblox sessions. Not a joke.

                          gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG fartnuggets@jorts.horseF cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC grumpybozo@toad.socialG nini@oldbytes.spaceN 7 Replies Last reply
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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

                            Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

                            dylan@social.lolD This user is from outside of this forum
                            dylan@social.lolD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @GossiTheDog "You'll never guess what"

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                              The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                              Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                              slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                              slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                              slothrop@chaos.social
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                              #14

                              @GossiTheDog I know we’ve learned that enforced password rotation is bad security practice, but this is a whole other level

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

                                Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

                                tops@im-in.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
                                tops@im-in.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @GossiTheDog "but... but... we couldn't update the security because they were so old." YYSW

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                                • ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.ukB ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk

                                  @GossiTheDog Wasn't it the internet connected fridges that let the group into Target years ago?

                                  norombasic@mastodon.worldN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @ben @GossiTheDog

                                  No. It was an HVAC system. Same penetration scenario and just as stupid though.

                                  Lived in an apartment building about 6 blocks from Target headquarters at the time. Lot of Target employees (including IT) lived there.

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                                    The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                                    Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                                    theyosh@mastodon.theyosh.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    theyosh@mastodon.theyosh.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    theyosh@mastodon.theyosh.nl
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    @GossiTheDog That is harder than password 123456

                                    https://cybersecuritynews.com/admin-password-danish-data-breach/

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

                                      Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

                                      nixfreak@masto.hackers.townN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @GossiTheDog oh good another BS phrase corps can use “A.I. did it” so what “artificial washing” now?

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Also there’s loads of speculation about if it’s Russia, China, Iran.

                                        It’s likely a bored teen in their underpants in between Roblox sessions. Not a joke.

                                        gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

                                        awkwardturing@infosec.exchangeA autolycos@beige.partyA theyosh@mastodon.theyosh.nlT simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG 9 Replies Last reply
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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                                          The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                                          Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                                          lasse@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          lasse@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          lasse@social.tchncs.de
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #20

                                          @GossiTheDog which date format, though? My password is four zeros, but I won't tell you in what order 😬

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