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Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

    https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

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    #2

    @cstross Why would the US Border Cops do things... ...outside of their borders?...

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

      https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

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      #3

      @cstross
      ICE shouldn't be allowed by any other nation to travel outside of the USA.

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

        https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

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        #4

        @cstross@wandering.shop Are they… deliberately trying to keep people away? This almost feels like an attempt to isolate the US on purpose rather than just offending everybody and assuming you're so important it won't matter. Which I suppose could be the next step in an authoritarian take over, but it seems at odds with the vast narcissism displayed so far.

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        • sotolf@polymaths.socialS sotolf@polymaths.social

          @cstross Why would the US Border Cops do things... ...outside of their borders?...

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          REMINDER: The US defines their border—where CBP operate—as "anywhere within 100 miles of a port or frontier". Which sounds only a little dodgy until you realize that EVERY airfield and airport in CONUS is defined as a "port", and there are thousands of them. About 80% of the land area of the Continental USA is therefore a free fire range for jackbooted thugs with effectively unqualified imminuity for gunning down random citizens.

          @sotolf

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          • mavnn@bonfire.mavnn.euM mavnn@bonfire.mavnn.eu

            @cstross@wandering.shop Are they… deliberately trying to keep people away? This almost feels like an attempt to isolate the US on purpose rather than just offending everybody and assuming you're so important it won't matter. Which I suppose could be the next step in an authoritarian take over, but it seems at odds with the vast narcissism displayed so far.

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            @mavnn Yes they're trying to keep people away. Have you seen the proposed new Visa Waiver entry deets they want to collect? ALL your (and your family's) social media accounts, email addresses, and phone numbers going back five years? DNA samples?

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

              https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

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              #7

              @cstross

              Trying to keep people from knowing what's going on in the US, or keep the US citizens from seeing the reactions of non-cultified people to the current US authoritarian nightmare?

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              • sotolf@polymaths.socialS sotolf@polymaths.social

                @cstross Why would the US Border Cops do things... ...outside of their borders?...

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                #8

                @sotolf @cstross thousands of miles outside of their borders, even

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

                  https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

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                  #9

                  @cstross the only role in security they should have is inmates.

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                  • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                    @cstross

                    Trying to keep people from knowing what's going on in the US, or keep the US citizens from seeing the reactions of non-cultified people to the current US authoritarian nightmare?

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                    @GutterPoetry This is what fascist-leaning governments always do. Restrictions on free movement are initially pitched as stopping undesirables getting in, but before long it's all about keeping their victims from escaping. Then they start building gas chambers and digging mass graves.

                    (I hope I'm wrong, but Trump's USA is definitely speed-running a play through of the Third Reich.)

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

                      https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

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                      @cstross
                      One presumes they'll get diplomatic immunity for any locals they shoot. Aren't Italians considered "white" this millennium, and do they know that?

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

                        https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

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                        #12

                        @cstross

                        Apparently, they're not welcome:

                        https://www.newsweek.com/ice-agents-winter-olympics-milan-mayor-11421630

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          REMINDER: The US defines their border—where CBP operate—as "anywhere within 100 miles of a port or frontier". Which sounds only a little dodgy until you realize that EVERY airfield and airport in CONUS is defined as a "port", and there are thousands of them. About 80% of the land area of the Continental USA is therefore a free fire range for jackbooted thugs with effectively unqualified imminuity for gunning down random citizens.

                          @sotolf

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                          #13

                          @cstross But Milan is in Italy is it not? So far aways from any US Port.

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                          • sotolf@polymaths.socialS sotolf@polymaths.social

                            @cstross Why would the US Border Cops do things... ...outside of their borders?...

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                            #14

                            @sotolf @cstross

                            "During previous Olympics, several federal agencies have supported security for U.S. diplomats, including the investigative component of ICE called Homeland Security Investigations, the sources said."

                            Idk how it works in detail. I guess countries usually allow diplomats to go around with their own security, whichever the fuck organization the security comes from.

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                            • szewek@mstdn.socialS szewek@mstdn.social

                              @sotolf @cstross

                              "During previous Olympics, several federal agencies have supported security for U.S. diplomats, including the investigative component of ICE called Homeland Security Investigations, the sources said."

                              Idk how it works in detail. I guess countries usually allow diplomats to go around with their own security, whichever the fuck organization the security comes from.

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                              #15

                              @szewek @cstross If I would be a different country I would be kind of worried if some diplomat brought with them "Homeland Security" 😛

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                @GutterPoetry This is what fascist-leaning governments always do. Restrictions on free movement are initially pitched as stopping undesirables getting in, but before long it's all about keeping their victims from escaping. Then they start building gas chambers and digging mass graves.

                                (I hope I'm wrong, but Trump's USA is definitely speed-running a play through of the Third Reich.)

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                                #16

                                @cstross

                                I also hope you're wrong but unfortunately I think you're spot on.

                                I've been feel guilty, almost as though it's fear mongering or wishing awful things into existence, but I think the enemy has to be seen and understood to be fought. Also maybe because I'm relatively safe for now in Europe.

                                It's maddening to see americans still so complacent, but at the same time it's so hard to get people over here to even give up their shitty fascist aligned social media... We need a movement!

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