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  • dm_ronin@mstdn.socialD dm_ronin@mstdn.social

    @cstross there was more from Magyar's press conference, and far worse https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-13/hungary-foreign-minister-is-shredding-eu-documents-magyar-says

    (as for CPAC funded by Orban, it was a well-known fact for several years)

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    #24
    @DM_Ronin @cstross Are there alternative sources? I am not going to throw money at Bloomberg 😕
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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      Holy shit.

      Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

      Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

      https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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      #25

      @cstross And probably with laundered Russian money.

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Holy shit.

        Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

        Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

        https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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        #26

        @cstross
        Put Orban to jai.
        He is a traitor..all of Fidesz are traitors.

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Holy shit.

          Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

          Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

          https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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          #27

          @cstross Watch Trump spin this as "bringing jobs back to the US" if fash-curious American billionaires step up to pay.

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          • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

            @Kierkegaanks @cstross

            I rather think that it was financed through Russia.

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            #28

            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Kierkegaanks @cstross With documents confirming that MAGA bloggers like Tim Pool and Benny Johnson were funded by Russia, I think it's reasonable to conclude that CPAC became yet another Kremlin psyop, intended to disrupt and corrupt US foreign and domestic politics.

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              Holy shit.

              Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

              Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

              https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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              #29

              @cstross

              Jailing Orbán sounds like a nice treat for people who like democracy and human rights.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Holy shit.

                Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                #30

                @cstross Hey remember this story: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mccarthy-trump-putin-pays_n_591cc97ce4b03b485cae64c2

                It really does come back to this schmuck half the time, huh?

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Holy shit.

                  Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                  Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                  https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                  #31

                  @cstross

                  Orban functioned as a conduit for Putin's foreign threat funding for years.

                  Petrostate despots and oil oligarchs fund a lot of fascism globally.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/russia-election-interference.html

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                  Republicans & the Epstein Class cannot resist fossil fuel public corruption.

                  https://www.newsweek.com/who-konstantin-nikolaev-money-mike-johnson-1870600

                  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/the-nra-spent-dollar30-million-to-elect-trump-was-it-russian-money

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Holy shit.

                    Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                    Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                    https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                    #32

                    @cstross Gonna bet JD got paid, too.

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                    • ltning@pleroma.anduin.netL ltning@pleroma.anduin.net
                      @DM_Ronin @cstross Are there alternative sources? I am not going to throw money at Bloomberg 😕
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                      #33

                      @ltning @DM_Ronin @cstross

                      https://archive.ph/IZp17
                      Try there

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        Holy shit.

                        Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                        Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                        https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                        #34

                        @cstross It's moderately heartening to learn that other countries are opposed to money in politics.

                        Unlike here in the US, where it's only the voters that are against it.

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          Holy shit.

                          Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                          Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                          https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                          #35

                          @cstross There is a need to get down improving life rather then than to get political hang-ups. Every one comes with the same political gimmick throughout the world. We call it Democracy, but at the end of the day is there any real difference?

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            Holy shit.

                            Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                            Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                            https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                            #36

                            @cstross see https://bsky.app/profile/emptywheel.bsky.social/post/3mjhbhrv3mc22

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              Holy shit.

                              Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                              Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                              https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                              #37

                              @cstross Viktor Orban’s Hungary was more meaningful to MAGA than you think. Steve Bannon and many others visited there frequently, and many think-tanks operated from there!

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                                #38

                                @W6KME @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Kierkegaanks @cstross The first CPAC was during the tail end of the Cold War so I think it's reasonable to assume it wasn't always a Republican-flavored Gathering of the Juggalos, and at least once serious policy discussions occurred. (No offense intended to any Juggalos who might be reading this.)

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Holy shit.

                                  Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                                  Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                                  https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                                  #39

                                  @cstross @pluralistic And CPAC was taking the money

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                                  • graydon@canada.masto.hostG graydon@canada.masto.host

                                    @cstross There's this sense in which the point of taking over governments for the global right-wing conspiracy is to fund taking over other governments.

                                    Looting a sovereign entity is, after all, about the most profitable thing you can do in one-lifetime time frames.

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                                    #40

                                    @graydon @cstross This fits nicely with @anneapplebaum's thesis in Autocracy Inc. All these autocrats form a network of mutual assistance.

                                    Some nodes, like Putin, are more important to the network, I guess. Orban was mostly a satellite?

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      Holy shit.

                                      Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                                      Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                                      https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                                      #41

                                      @cstross

                                      A treasonous crime and Orban and his whole regime should pay for this.

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                                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                        Holy shit.

                                        Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                                        Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                                        https://newrepublic.com/post/209035/hungary-prime-minister-victor-orban-paying-cpac

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                                        #42

                                        @cstross a person, whose Telegram channel I'm reading since 2022, has this take: every known (far-)right politician contemporary to us is a scam, a fraud, a con artist, a grifter, and a thief. This heuristic more or less holds, with almost no exceptions.

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                                        • graydon@canada.masto.hostG graydon@canada.masto.host

                                          @darkling Pretty much, yes.

                                          Only with greater scope; private equity firms don't have the ability of a sovereign to make things legal.

                                          (You can view everything since 1500 as a process of enclosure and not be hugely wrong in terms of economic history. Which is a detached way of saying "farming human lifespan".)

                                          @cstross

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                                          #43

                                          @graydon @darkling @cstross pretty grim point of view. Fundametally correct though (well, I give it inordinately high probability of being correct). And, as with many other general things, it came to different parts of the world at somewhat different times.

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