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  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

    More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

    A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

    Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

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    #10

    @JessTheUnstill if anyone has a business that values curiosity, integrity, and loyalty then sign me up 😅

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    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

      Also, I'm American, so the fash could just walk up to the door, stick a subpoena in my face, and demand I hand over customer data or go to jail forever.

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      #11

      @JessTheUnstill Hard to give data you never collected in the first place. Remember that time Signal was ordered to give all their data on a specific user and they gave them everything, which was their name (already known to the state), their phone number (trivial for them to check as well anyway), and the date the account was created, that's it. They complied with the law without violating customer privacy.

      If the law changes to require companies to collect user data, that's a different story, and I think that heavily depends on what kind of service we're talking about.

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      • arrjay@tacobelllabs.netA arrjay@tacobelllabs.net

        @JessTheUnstill with bonus "can't tell anyone" national security letter

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        #12

        @arrjay @JessTheUnstill
        That's what Warrant Canaries are for.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

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        • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

          @arrjay @JessTheUnstill
          That's what Warrant Canaries are for.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

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          #13

          @RealGene @arrjay Sure, but once you trigger your warrant canary, anyone privacy sensitive considers you compromised and abandons your service.

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          • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

            More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

            A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

            Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

            stevensaus@faithcollapsing.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @JessTheUnstill

            Yes. This is the way; there's plenty of evidence and research that this kind of cooperative model works and can thrive even in a capitalist hellscape.

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              #15

              @stacey_campbell Cool!

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              • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

                @JessTheUnstill Even still, there are benefits to working with a company that the fash have to ask if they want info, rather than a company that is actively providing that info...

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                #16

                @Epic_Null @JessTheUnstill Not as ideal as a company that *can* deny the fash the info without going to jail, because they're technically in a non-fash country.

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                • at1st@mstdn.caA at1st@mstdn.ca

                  @Epic_Null @JessTheUnstill Not as ideal as a company that *can* deny the fash the info without going to jail, because they're technically in a non-fash country.

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                  #17

                  @AT1ST @JessTheUnstill Yeah... but you gotta work up to a non-fash country. A good portion of how we got here was a total market control over certain industries by a handful of companies. Breaking out of that would go a long way towards re-establishing ourselves.

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                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                    @RealGene @arrjay Sure, but once you trigger your warrant canary, anyone privacy sensitive considers you compromised and abandons your service.

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                    #18

                    @JessTheUnstill @RealGene @arrjay Hey that's my sign! I would be happy to do email support and small web tweaks and copy editing for this hypothetical enterprise.

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                    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                      More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                      A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                      Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

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                      #19

                      @JessTheUnstill Craigslist still looks like it came from a 2002 senior student project and I have yet to hear about them rebranding to crAIgslist to reactualize the paradigm.

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                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                        More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                        A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                        Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

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                        #20

                        @JessTheUnstill @PastaThief This is one of my fantasies. Helping people upgrade things with ancient dependencies, cleaning up slop after the collapse, moving things out of the cloud to on-prem or a local colo.

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                        • stevensaus@faithcollapsing.comS stevensaus@faithcollapsing.com

                          @JessTheUnstill

                          Yes. This is the way; there's plenty of evidence and research that this kind of cooperative model works and can thrive even in a capitalist hellscape.

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                          @StevenSaus Yeah. Even in a world of behemoths, there's always going to be niches of the market where customers are underserved by the mainstream and may even be willing to pay a price premium for a trusted partner who knows their customers well. Live within your means, only grow when you can afford to, don't take on unsustainable debt, and your niche will stay loyal.

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                          • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                            More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                            A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                            Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

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                            #22

                            @JessTheUnstill

                            Love it. Sign me up.

                            #genX #retired

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                            • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

                              @arrjay @JessTheUnstill
                              That's what Warrant Canaries are for.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

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                              @RealGene @arrjay @JessTheUnstill Is it even clear yet that warrant canaries are legally functional, and not just an extra line-item on warrants?

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                              • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                                A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                                Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

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                                #24

                                @JessTheUnstill 👋🏻 hi I'm trying

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                                • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                  Also, I'm American, so the fash could just walk up to the door, stick a subpoena in my face, and demand I hand over customer data or go to jail forever.

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                                  @JessTheUnstill yup, that's one of my big business risks right now

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                                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                    @RealGene @arrjay Sure, but once you trigger your warrant canary, anyone privacy sensitive considers you compromised and abandons your service.

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                                    @JessTheUnstill @RealGene @arrjay
                                    There is this 3NWeb, No plain text, No unnecessary metadata given by client to server => leads to Nothing abusable on the server.
                                    It changes some structuring: processes run on user devices. Server has no idea about apps user has, and can't censor.
                                    If you build new tech, build on this foundation.
                                    For use now, there is server, and desktop side, for fdroid, builds can be found in https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/merge_requests/51730
                                    with text/links

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                                    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                      If it weren't for the fact that I don't know the first damn thing about starting or running a corp, and it'd liquidate my retirement funds to even start buying infrastructure and hiring people...

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                                      @JessTheUnstill
                                      Same

                                      Except that I’m taking business management classes at the local college, so in theory, I might be able to do this in the future.

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                                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                        More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                                        A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                                        Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

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                                        @JessTheUnstill one thing I would recommend such a co-op do is ensure that they collaborate with colleges to provide co-operative work terms (the computer industry equivalent of practicums). This helps the students a ton, but most importantly it helps bring fresh ideas and perspectives into the org.

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                                        • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

                                          @arrjay @JessTheUnstill
                                          That's what Warrant Canaries are for.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

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                                          @RealGene doesn't help if the canary dies in the first month

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