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@MarkHoltom You use machine learning most times you spend money (your transaction will probably go through at least one fraud detection system that uses ML to recognise scams).
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@MarkHoltom You use machine learning most times you spend money (your transaction will probably go through at least one fraud detection system that uses ML to recognise scams).
@TimWardCam @MarkHoltom .... and is used in science, in radiology, but the name is too close to "chat bot" and the masses cannot understand the difference so we must destroy it. 🫠
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@MarkHoltom ML is fine, it's LLMs that are so problematic!
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@MarkHoltom ReL U I won't do what you tell me
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@MarkHoltom ML is not GenAI. Theresa rallys are countless important use-cases, especially in medicine Butter also in other sciences.
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@MarkHoltom ML is not GenAI. Theresa rallys are countless important use-cases, especially in medicine Butter also in other sciences.
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@MarkHoltom ReL U I won't do what you tell me
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@TimWardCam @MarkHoltom .... and is used in science, in radiology, but the name is too close to "chat bot" and the masses cannot understand the difference so we must destroy it. 🫠
@nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
Also, the perpetrators of LLMs just love the confusion between AI, ML, and GenAI/LLM, and so on. It serves their commercial prospects.
Then again, I met a guy last week who confused AI with QR; he'd been at a bar with his fifteen mates on a stag do and got confused by the QR code on the terrace table used for ordering, and he called that "AI", explaining to me (later) that he couldn't work out how to use it (the QR code) to put in an order.
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@nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
Also, the perpetrators of LLMs just love the confusion between AI, ML, and GenAI/LLM, and so on. It serves their commercial prospects.
Then again, I met a guy last week who confused AI with QR; he'd been at a bar with his fifteen mates on a stag do and got confused by the QR code on the terrace table used for ordering, and he called that "AI", explaining to me (later) that he couldn't work out how to use it (the QR code) to put in an order.
@jerrej @nesce @MarkHoltom I mostly don't bother to attempt to use the QR codes for ordering. Apart from the general lunacy one would have to suffer from to scan *any* QR code in a public place, I've never yet found a system that lets you order things you actually want, like for example "the burger but with no cheese" or "the biryani but with a peshwari nan instead of a plain one". So you have to end up ordering from a human anyway, so why waste time pissing around with a useless "app" first?
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@nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
Also, the perpetrators of LLMs just love the confusion between AI, ML, and GenAI/LLM, and so on. It serves their commercial prospects.
Then again, I met a guy last week who confused AI with QR; he'd been at a bar with his fifteen mates on a stag do and got confused by the QR code on the terrace table used for ordering, and he called that "AI", explaining to me (later) that he couldn't work out how to use it (the QR code) to put in an order.
@jerrej @nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
The best way to use a QR code for ordering is to ignore it and go to a restaurant with old-fashioned human service.
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The best way to use a QR code for ordering is to ignore it and go to a restaurant with old-fashioned human service.
#GrumpyOldMan@KimSJ @nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
How quickly we get entirely side-tracked from the original Important Message. I blame the acronyms.
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@jerrej @nesce @MarkHoltom I mostly don't bother to attempt to use the QR codes for ordering. Apart from the general lunacy one would have to suffer from to scan *any* QR code in a public place, I've never yet found a system that lets you order things you actually want, like for example "the burger but with no cheese" or "the biryani but with a peshwari nan instead of a plain one". So you have to end up ordering from a human anyway, so why waste time pissing around with a useless "app" first?
@TimWardCam @nesce @MarkHoltom
The app would be the absolute worst case scenario. How about just a website, eh? But then maybe the website (or app) has an "I need assistance" button which would prove more useful? How would you find out, ignoring the QR code? Maybe just call their landline and someone behind the bar will pick up the phone. Then you explain where you are and that you would like to speak to an actual person at your table.
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@KimSJ @nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
How quickly we get entirely side-tracked from the original Important Message. I blame the acronyms.
@jerrej @nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
I suggest it’s not a sidetrack; the message we should be extrapolating from the OP is that there are appropriate uses of technology, and there are inappropriate ones. And adding pressure to restaurant staff to save some of the wage bill, thereby enshittifying the dining experience, is certainly one example of inappropriate technology. -
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How quickly we get entirely side-tracked from the original Important Message. I blame the acronyms.
@jerrej @KimSJ @nesce @MarkHoltom Some of us who have ended up on Mastodon started out on news:cam.misc, where thread drift was an art form.
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@jerrej @KimSJ @nesce @MarkHoltom Some of us who have ended up on Mastodon started out on news:cam.misc, where thread drift was an art form.
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@jerrej @nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
I suggest it’s not a sidetrack; the message we should be extrapolating from the OP is that there are appropriate uses of technology, and there are inappropriate ones. And adding pressure to restaurant staff to save some of the wage bill, thereby enshittifying the dining experience, is certainly one example of inappropriate technology.@KimSJ @nesce @TimWardCam @MarkHoltom
My anecdote was about a bar with like fifty terrace tables, with an additional service of some simple snack food, but I get where you're going. I wouldn't want a dining experience through QR codes, websites, or apps either, let alone the "AI assistents" that are obviously coming soon to a bar or restaurant near you. *shudder*
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@MarkHoltom That's like being against mathematics! If you throw out the machine learning out goes pattern matching cancer detection, protein folding and a whole bunch of stuff that regular computing couldn't do in a thousands years! Know the real enemy - capitalism!
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