1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class.
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My first typewriter class in high school included learning how to type on a manual typewriter. Talk about exercise (!) especially for the pinky fingers.
Honestly, I miss the machinery, the immediate results, and the careful focus so as to not go through such a time consuming process to correct errors.
@forestfern We used computers for my typing class. The old guy who taught it had the easiest job in the world. His attitude was "Just try to improve your speed and accuracy on these exercises, and wake me up if there is a fire." We got super competitive, trying to outdo each other's WPM count on the same exercises over and over again. LOL
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@rjblaskiewicz Meet Timmy. Timmy is the dumbest person you'll ever meet, and there are Timmies everywhere. Let's learn more about Timmy and how to deal with him in a way that keeps the destruction he leaves in your life to an absolute minimum.
Some people actually aspire to be Timmys by being as lazy as possible, but these people don't realize that they are already Timmys. Because they are Timmys. What I'm saying is that metacognition is not their strong point.
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@forestfern Oh the subculture....I'm learning there is a typewriter subculture. Because of course there is.
@forestfern There is a non-zero chance that at this time next year I will be writing here with ribbon ink-stained hands and a ferocious addiction to white-out.
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@forestfern We used computers for my typing class. The old guy who taught it had the easiest job in the world. His attitude was "Just try to improve your speed and accuracy on these exercises, and wake me up if there is a fire." We got super competitive, trying to outdo each other's WPM count on the same exercises over and over again. LOL
@rjblaskiewicz I remember those timed typing tests, too. No computers in our classes. I recall I once beat the class that were using the IBM Selectrics (super awesome electric typewriter!) when I used the Royal manual typewriter. There was a certain groove you could get into on those heavy metal typewriters.
I forgot about this until you mentioned typewriters tonight. Thank you.
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@forestfern There is a non-zero chance that at this time next year I will be writing here with ribbon ink-stained hands and a ferocious addiction to white-out.
@rjblaskiewicz "Ferocious addiction to white-out." Ha! Got a chuckle out of me here. And just like that, I can smell white-out again. *whew*
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1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class. This is a disaster. I caught one when it confidently made up a quote in an article I know better than anything I've ever written myself. I looked at the document history, and the whole paper appeared less than a minute after the document was created.
From now on, even looking at AI is cheating in my classes. No second chances. Seriously, we need to go back to typewriter labs.
@rjblaskiewicz if not typewriters, then perhaps copperplate.
(Full disclosure: I'm learning copperplate)
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1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class. This is a disaster. I caught one when it confidently made up a quote in an article I know better than anything I've ever written myself. I looked at the document history, and the whole paper appeared less than a minute after the document was created.
From now on, even looking at AI is cheating in my classes. No second chances. Seriously, we need to go back to typewriter labs.
@rjblaskiewicz typewriters? Why not hand written? I know teachers who do 100% of writing assignments in class, with pen & paper.
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@rjblaskiewicz typewriters? Why not hand written? I know teachers who do 100% of writing assignments in class, with pen & paper.
@lastofthem Because you’d have to read their godforsaken handwriting later?
These are kids who probably haven’t written anything since kindergarten.
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@lastofthem Because you’d have to read their godforsaken handwriting later?
These are kids who probably haven’t written anything since kindergarten.
@drahardja @lastofthem I wonder if it would not be useful, for deciphering handwriting, to use ... an AI...
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@rjblaskiewicz I'm assuming it'd be frowned upon if you called those students stupid to their faces, right?
I do think there's a learning opportunity here though for the kids who didn't use Ai. Like, "Here's Timmy. Timmy used Ai in this class even after everything we talked about. Timmy is exactly the person this class is supposed to prepare you for, the kind of incorrigible simpleton who is impervious to even basic common sense. We will now examine Timmy's broken thought process."
@Legit_Spaghetti @rjblaskiewicz and we will now dissect Timmy's paper phrase by phrase to examine why he has failed.
When I was at uni the main, and very minor, concern was occasional light plagiarism. Now it seems as if it's a whole fiction industry. -
@forestfern There is a non-zero chance that at this time next year I will be writing here with ribbon ink-stained hands and a ferocious addiction to white-out.
@rjblaskiewicz @forestfern ferocious addiction to white-out. My first band name.
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@rjblaskiewicz typewriters? Why not hand written? I know teachers who do 100% of writing assignments in class, with pen & paper.
@lastofthem @rjblaskiewicz
My university has gone back to invigilated pen-and-paper exams. -
@drahardja @lastofthem I wonder if it would not be useful, for deciphering handwriting, to use ... an AI...
🤪@PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem
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@rjblaskiewicz if not typewriters, then perhaps copperplate.
(Full disclosure: I'm learning copperplate)
@flipper @rjblaskiewicz Have ever tried to decipher dysgraphic's handwriting?
At school we were taught https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Psac%C3%AD_p%C3%ADsmo.gif
I had to customize it to be able to read what I've written...
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Fingers crossed on a typewriter comeback.
Not too long ago I watched an interesting documentary on typewriters that featured a man who has a store that provides typewriter maintenance. You may want to call him:
@forestfern @rjblaskiewicz Do you know if there are typewriters with Dvorak layout? I'm not going back to QWERTY based layouts...
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@rjblaskiewicz I remember those timed typing tests, too. No computers in our classes. I recall I once beat the class that were using the IBM Selectrics (super awesome electric typewriter!) when I used the Royal manual typewriter. There was a certain groove you could get into on those heavy metal typewriters.
I forgot about this until you mentioned typewriters tonight. Thank you.
@rjblaskiewicz @forestfern growing up, we had an Olympic manual. I hated that machine and I still don’t do touch typing.
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1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class. This is a disaster. I caught one when it confidently made up a quote in an article I know better than anything I've ever written myself. I looked at the document history, and the whole paper appeared less than a minute after the document was created.
From now on, even looking at AI is cheating in my classes. No second chances. Seriously, we need to go back to typewriter labs.
@rjblaskiewicz 1/3 amusing at the lack of even a basic understanding of thinking, critical or otherwiae and 2/3 quiet desperation that this may be our collective future as these people and thousands like them are turned loose on an unsuspecting public with ever more damaging tools that they consider aids to boost their own cleverness.
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1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class. This is a disaster. I caught one when it confidently made up a quote in an article I know better than anything I've ever written myself. I looked at the document history, and the whole paper appeared less than a minute after the document was created.
From now on, even looking at AI is cheating in my classes. No second chances. Seriously, we need to go back to typewriter labs.
@rjblaskiewicz My son was recently told in his college freshman English class that he was probably "too advanced" for the class when he told the professor he'd rather *not* use AI to help write his papers, after it was suggested the whole class do so. He's definitely not "too advanced", he has a diagnosed learning disability with writing. Professor has just given up.
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@rjblaskiewicz My son was recently told in his college freshman English class that he was probably "too advanced" for the class when he told the professor he'd rather *not* use AI to help write his papers, after it was suggested the whole class do so. He's definitely not "too advanced", he has a diagnosed learning disability with writing. Professor has just given up.
@technothrasher That instructor is in the wrong business.
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@PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem
You'd have to train it on an extensive sample of the writing of every individual student to get reasonably accuracy. We have hundreds of students per class.@wim_v12e @PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem Haven't national mail services used handwriting recognition for decades?
