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  3. Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word.

Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word.

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

    Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

    rezzish@slime.globalR syn@plasmatrap.comS kbal@fedia.ioK candle@timetheft.socialC standev@mstdn.socialS 17 Replies Last reply
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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

      Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

      rezzish@slime.globalR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @mcc that might just be an abbreviation?

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

        Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

        syn@plasmatrap.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @mcc@mastodon.social this is at least somewhat common in the Netherlands (and I think also Germany?)

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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

          Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

          kbal@fedia.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          The word for that is “acronym.” The one where the rule is to use only the first letter of each word is an “initialism” although it’s usually considered as one type of acronym.

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          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

            Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

            Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

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            #5

            @mcc wikipedia at least calls them syllabic abbreviations https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_syllabic_abbreviations

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            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

              Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

              Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

              standev@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @mcc no idea—it’s common in Korean and presumably Chinese as well.

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              • syn@plasmatrap.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @mcc@mastodon.social an acronym is when you say the word (NASA, LASER), an initialism is when you say the letters (GPU)

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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

                  Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

                  ann3nova@corteximplant.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @mcc Portmanteau. 🙂

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                  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @whitequark @mcc both of those use the first letter of each word, but strictly speaking initialisms are read out as the letters (e.g. BGP, TCP) and acronyms are pronounced as a word (e.g. LARP, PIN), although in practice "acronym" gets used to mean both.

                    I think what mcc wants is more like "LoRa".

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                    • syn@plasmatrap.comS syn@plasmatrap.com

                      @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @mcc@mastodon.social an acronym is when you say the word (NASA, LASER), an initialism is when you say the letters (GPU)

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                      #10

                      @syn @mcc wiktionary says that "komsomol" is an acromym (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Komsomol) so i think that's what it's called

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                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                        Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

                        Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

                        mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        This name is unacceptably long, and therefore I propose we shorten it to "SylAb"

                        https://timetheft.social/@candle/116806050445622751

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          Imagine an "acronym" but instead of taking the first letter of each word, you took the entire first syllable of each word. I notice Japan, which incidentally has a syllabary, seems to create this sort of "acronym" fairly often.

                          Is there a word, like a linguistics word, for this type of syllabic "acronym"?

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                          #12

                          @mcc hmm, words like FedEx or SoCal or HiFi (or NaNoWriMo)...I feel like there should be a term for it, but I can't bring one to mind.

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                          • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                            @whitequark @mcc both of those use the first letter of each word, but strictly speaking initialisms are read out as the letters (e.g. BGP, TCP) and acronyms are pronounced as a word (e.g. LARP, PIN), although in practice "acronym" gets used to mean both.

                            I think what mcc wants is more like "LoRa".

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                            #13

                            @gsuberland @mcc upon closer inspection there is no consensus on what "acronym" means

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              @gsuberland @mcc upon closer inspection there is no consensus on what "acronym" means

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                              #14

                              @whitequark @mcc yup.

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                              • ann3nova@corteximplant.comA ann3nova@corteximplant.com

                                @mcc Portmanteau. 🙂

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                                #15

                                @ann3nova @mcc Isn't a portmanteau usually the beginning of one word and the end of another?

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @syn @mcc wiktionary says that "komsomol" is an acromym (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Komsomol) so i think that's what it's called

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                                  #16

                                  @whitequark @syn If wikitionary had actually spelled it "acromym" I would have proposed making it the new official name for the concept

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                                  • rezzish@slime.globalR rezzish@slime.global

                                    @mcc that might just be an abbreviation?

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                                    #17

                                    @rezzish I was hoping to have a term more specific than abbreviation, since the concept itself is more specific

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                                    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                      @whitequark @mcc yup.

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                                      #18

                                      @gsuberland @whitequark It's interesting because language is fluid but usually the words used to describe language are more rigid due to them being selected by people whose job it is to describe language

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                                      • kelson@notes.kvibber.comK kelson@notes.kvibber.com

                                        @ann3nova @mcc Isn't a portmanteau usually the beginning of one word and the end of another?

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                                        #19

                                        @kelson @ann3nova Yes, but I think if someone called "first syllables of both word" a portmanteau they'd probably get away with it because portmanteaus are mostly about feel

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                                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                          @kelson @ann3nova Yes, but I think if someone called "first syllables of both word" a portmanteau they'd probably get away with it because portmanteaus are mostly about feel

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                                          @mcc @ann3nova yeah, probably

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