You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

[thebratdragon@mastodon.scot]

@ocean not just google, all search engines return shit results, even if they try not to, because of infestations of advertising and misdirection markers at every turn.

[mistermaker@fosstodon.org]

@gsuberland @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq Oh no that sounds bad.... I am not against AI stuff, you just have to see it as a fancy spelling and grammar check.

[gsuberland@chaos.social]

@MisterMaker @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq yeah, well, I am against it.

[publictorsten@mastodon.social]

@ocean Your assumptions are based on incomplete data. I had a look into the documents in question and Google is worried to lose traffic if the search quality decreases.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/Google%20Search%20Engine%20Monopoly%20Ruling.pdf

[pfm@edolas.world]

@ocean could you please link the source?

[rafinha13@mastodon.social]

@ocean isso é cruel porque destrói o nosso tempo

[cassolotl@eldritch.cafe]

@ocean @ashiel Debunked: https://chaos.social/@gsuberland/114492859575120183

[jackyan@mastodon.social]

@ocean Sure was, they even wrote it down.

https://jackyan.com/blog/2023/09/google-search-is-worse-by-design-internal-memo/

[jackyan@mastodon.social]

@adavid @ocean Here is one. Literally in a Google memo.

https://jackyan.com/blog/2023/09/google-search-is-worse-by-design-internal-memo/

[levampyre@chaos.social]

@ocean Nein! Doch! Oh!

[dalias@hachyderm.io]

@Stellar @ocean What alternatives? The sites purporting to be are just scraping and repackaging Google and Bing. They do not have their own indices.

[m@miruku.cafe]

@ocean@raru.re
okay theres a difference between worse on purpose, and they arent actively trying to make it better

the latter is still bad, competition would remedy it

but ya know lets not twist words

[jackyan@mastodon.social]

@adavid @ocean Any time!

[catswhocode@twoot.site]

@powerpath right, that's one of my favorite ones, or Qwant and Startpage recently. @ocean @aetios

[cable@verse.averagedood.xyz]

@ocean@raru.re Not only google, youtube too, try to search something, and it probably search nosense things or shorts. IDK if another google service are geting worst too...

[kevin999@mastodon.sdf.org]

@ocean Search "ten blue links" and follow the instructions for making your default browser google-web. The udf=14? tag improves results significantly. Check my syntax on that...

[volcano@nerdculture.de]

@ocean use DuckDuckGo.com

[frankcat@mstdn.social]

@ocean I guess we need to skip straight to page 2 of Google search results (but mind the hidden bodies)

[benjohn@todon.nl]

@gsuberland @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq DDG? … I guess this is one conversation where no one can say “let me google that for you”

[gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aetios @ocean the guy responsible for that is the guy that killed yahoo search