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  • blainsmith@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
    blainsmith@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
    blainsmith@fosstodon.org
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #40

    @jwildeboer Sounding like we need to make this happen somehow now haha

    @_elena @jan

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

      Do you have any recommendations?

      So far, at the top of my list I have:

      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

      michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
      michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
      michelpatrice@jasette.facil.services
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #41

      @_elena

      I came across a cool humoristic method of resistance, see the For Ai Only section :
      https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1124/new-rss-feeds-landing

      (Si tu ne connais pas David Revoy, son travail est intéressant.)

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        @_elena Film idea: "Back to the roots". They meet in secret. In coding dojos. They write code by hand. They have ancient books, real books, printed, with names like "Assembly Guide for the x86 ISA", "High Performance Python" that are sacred bibles of ancient knowledge. Follow our hero as she goes from LLM withdrawal to changing the world with hand-written code that frees the minds of millions. @jan

        fmarini@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
        fmarini@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
        fmarini@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #42

        @jwildeboer @_elena @jan just read a wonderful piece on literature and LLMs, which has a part that is eerily similar to your idea 😁

        I think you might like it ☺️

        https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/the-colonization-of-confidence/

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        • fmarini@mastodon.socialF fmarini@mastodon.social

          @jwildeboer @_elena @jan just read a wonderful piece on literature and LLMs, which has a part that is eerily similar to your idea 😁

          I think you might like it ☺️

          https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/the-colonization-of-confidence/

          jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #43

          @fmarini Yes, I read (and shared) that too the day it was published 🙂 @_elena @jan

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            standard_phil@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
            standard_phil@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
            standard_phil@infosec.exchange
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #44

            @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Anil Dash @anildash belongs on your list, I think.

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            • onepunchmango@radikal.socialO onepunchmango@radikal.social

              @707Kat they argue and explain heavily against their usage and limitations in most things, and eloquently so. It's a good way both to keep up with* recent developments, learn, and get the vocabluary to talk about it with other people.

              707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
              707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
              707kat@mastodon.art
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #45

              @onepunchmango I'm aware of what the EFF do. I'm not saying they don't do a lot of good. However, they are not against LLMs and up until recently they were positive about its usage. Even though the technology inherently relies on voiding people's privacy. For the longest time they cheered on it as a way to beat Copyright and boost free information, ignoring people who tried to explain why it would be damaging.

              Try taking a look at how this page has changed this month:
              https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/effs-policy-llm-assisted-contributions-our-open-source-projects

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              • standard_phil@infosec.exchangeS standard_phil@infosec.exchange

                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Anil Dash @anildash belongs on your list, I think.

                anildash@me.dmA This user is from outside of this forum
                anildash@me.dmA This user is from outside of this forum
                anildash@me.dm
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #46

                @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                  Do you have any recommendations?

                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                  esi@merveilles.townE This user is from outside of this forum
                  esi@merveilles.townE This user is from outside of this forum
                  esi@merveilles.town
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #47

                  @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                    Do you have any recommendations?

                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                    eivind@mastodon.fjerland.noE This user is from outside of this forum
                    eivind@mastodon.fjerland.noE This user is from outside of this forum
                    eivind@mastodon.fjerland.no
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #48

                    @_elena I certainly don't expect to be on such a list, but I sympahtise, and I am of course strongly opposed to LLMs. I think you got good suggestions already, so I'll just chime in to say I agree.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                      Do you have any recommendations?

                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                      onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                      onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                      onepict@chaos.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #49

                      @_elena We also have projects that are explicitly not accepting AI like @gentoo .

                      We also have folk like @xgranade who is working on a fork of calibre. Which I am very grateful for.

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                        Do you have any recommendations?

                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                        fasterandworse@hci.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        fasterandworse@hci.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        fasterandworse@hci.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #50

                        @_elena I recommend @zzt @davidgerard @froztbyte @kimcrawley / @crowgirl

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                          Do you have any recommendations?

                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                          glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                          glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                          glamcode@openbiblio.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #51

                          @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                          - @baldur
                          - @RainerMuehlhoff
                          - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                          - @olivia
                          - @quinta
                          - @lapcatsoftware
                          - @dylan

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                            Do you have any recommendations?

                            So far, at the top of my list I have:

                            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                            brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                            brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                            brib@disabled.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #52

                            @_elena I'm noisy enough about it to release a slopfree index and blog about it a bit, although I try (only semi-successfully) to balance out my feed with stuff that isn't AI

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                            • glamcode@openbiblio.socialG glamcode@openbiblio.social

                              @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                              - @baldur
                              - @RainerMuehlhoff
                              - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                              - @olivia
                              - @quinta
                              - @lapcatsoftware
                              - @dylan

                              lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                              lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                              lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #53

                              @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

                                kimcrawley@zeroes.caK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                kimcrawley@zeroes.ca
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #54

                                @_elena @davidgerard ❤️

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                                • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

                                  @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

                                  rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  rysiek@mstdn.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #55

                                  @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                                  I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                                  https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                                  Some relevant examples:
                                  https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                                  https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                                  https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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                                  • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

                                    @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

                                    glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    glamcode@openbiblio.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #56

                                    @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                      Do you have any recommendations?

                                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                      hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                                      hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                                      hikingdude@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #57

                                      @_elena
                                      That's difficult.
                                      Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

                                      justin@social.younger.wtfJ 1 Reply Last reply
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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                        Do you have any recommendations?

                                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                        dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #58

                                        @_elena
                                        Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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                                        • mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          mkj@social.mkj.earth
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #59

                                          @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

                                          🙂

                                          @_elena @kawunngg

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