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  • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

    @Lightfighter @CliftonR @GossiTheDog if you recognize the answer as correct (or wrong) you didn't need the ai.

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    #179

    @Lightfighter @CliftonR @GossiTheDog and if you _don't_ know if the answer is correct (or wrong) you shouldn't use the ai answer... except maybe in cases where a guess is useful?

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      If anybody is wondering how this keeps happening, Google pull their AI output from Reddit. Somebody posted a Reddit thread saying days have fish in them, so now Google replies saying that. Google just blindly trusts any poster on Reddit (not a joke).

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      #180

      @GossiTheDog funny thing it says two days for me and I don't even see reddit as a source listed.

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      • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

        @Lightfighter @CliftonR @GossiTheDog and if you _don't_ know if the answer is correct (or wrong) you shouldn't use the ai answer... except maybe in cases where a guess is useful?

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        #181

        @poleguy @Lightfighter @GossiTheDog

        I think they were being ironic about it.

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        • cliftonr@wandering.shopC cliftonr@wandering.shop

          @poleguy @Lightfighter @GossiTheDog

          I think they were being ironic about it.

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          #182

          @CliftonR @Lightfighter @GossiTheDog Yes, I didn't miss the irony! I very much agree.

          I'm just preaching to the choir a bit, just like everyone else here. And the echo in the chamber here makes my voice sound great!

          It's fun, but, now I'll stop typing and just carry on singing in my head.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Anybody can abuse this one btw, just post bullshit on Reddit about a company supporting Israel or whatever and Google recites it.

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            #183

            There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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              #184

              More on this: https://www.404media.co/companies-are-using-reddit-to-manipulate-chatgpt-and-google-ai-search/

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                #185

                @GossiTheDog Finally, SEO for LLMs.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                  #186

                  @GossiTheDog What bothers me most about this screenshot is that they're advertising posting a statement to AskReddit.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                    #187

                    @GossiTheDog It was only a matter of time before the SEO industry broke into "poisoning AI responses for money".

                    Every AI response in 6 months is going to have a horrific political bias to it.

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                      #188

                      @GossiTheDog SupplyChainAttack😂

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                        #189

                        @GossiTheDog I never thought I would see "Parasitic SEO" as a selling point...

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                          #190

                          @GossiTheDog this is the bit that absolutely boggles my mind how anyone can look at LLMs and bet their future on them

                          You have to keep re-training them with fresh data or they become outdated. The sheer amount of data needed is too expensive to self-generate so they are making it too expensive for the rest of the world to host quality data publicly thereby creating an incentive for the data sources to dry up

                          This is a fundamental part of the system. No amount of optimisations fixes this 🤷‍♂️

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                            #191

                            @GossiTheDog Large Language Model Assimilation Optimization (LLMAO) 🤪

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                            • cyberoutsider@infosec.exchangeC cyberoutsider@infosec.exchange

                              @GossiTheDog It was only a matter of time before the SEO industry broke into "poisoning AI responses for money".

                              Every AI response in 6 months is going to have a horrific political bias to it.

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                              #192

                              @Cyberoutsider @GossiTheDog And this is the true horror of AI.

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                #193

                                @GossiTheDog Figured this was an easy manipulation technique for the right price.

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                  #194

                                  @GossiTheDog 'parasite seo' is basically self-explanatory 😬😑

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                    #195

                                    @GossiTheDog jfc, if you're reddit it has to be a 5-alarm fire to shut this down (but knowing how awful they are, they might just be happy to profit off selling API access to the bot-injectors).

                                    I've personally cooled on reddit, because I have problems dealing with the humans on it, but the value of the site is unquestionably the humans on it. Any quantity of bots pretending to be humans is piss in the pool, it ruins the whole thing.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                      #196

                                      @GossiTheDog whip round for “how many r’s in strawberries?” then? We can fix this one turd at a time

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        There's an AI company where you pay them and they'll get anything you want into GenAI results via Reddit.

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                                        #197

                                        @GossiTheDog I don't know I still like Alice's Restuarant...

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                          https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                          #198

                                          @GossiTheDog

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