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  • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

    nora@blob.loveN garrickwinter@mastodon.socialG beaiouns@is.nota.liveB poetaster@mastodon.gamedev.placeP sennoma@chaos.socialS 13 Replies Last reply
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    • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

      I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

      nora@blob.loveN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @JakeOrlowitz you might want to stick a link on "solidarity petition" so its easier to take action

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      • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

        @JakeOrlowitz you might want to stick a link on "solidarity petition" so its easier to take action

        nora@blob.loveN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @JakeOrlowitz i searched "solidarity wikipedia" on ddg and it gave me the wikipedia entry on solidarity lmao

        castanea_jo@ni.hil.istC 1 Reply Last reply
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        • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

          I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

          garrickwinter@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @JakeOrlowitz This is deeply unfortunate. I don't follow Wikimedia's internal community and politics much but I'd always hoped they'd continue steering things fairly well.

          This is making me think about what collective ownership of the foundation could look like instead.

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          • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

            I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

            beaiouns@is.nota.liveB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @JakeOrlowitz thanks for the heads up! signed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Workers_United_solidarity

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            • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

              I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

              poetaster@mastodon.gamedev.placeP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @JakeOrlowitz signed and signed. Thanks for covering this!

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              • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

                sennoma@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @JakeOrlowitz Thanks for writing it. This is a big deal.

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                • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                  I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

                  gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @JakeOrlowitz Did someone just decide that everything had to suddenly be awful simultaneously or something? Did I miss a memo?

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                  • nora@blob.loveN nora@blob.love

                    @JakeOrlowitz i searched "solidarity wikipedia" on ddg and it gave me the wikipedia entry on solidarity lmao

                    castanea_jo@ni.hil.istC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @nora @JakeOrlowitz The bigger list for people to sign: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Workers_United

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                    • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                      I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

                      cmdrmoto@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @JakeOrlowitz Bernadette Meehan, as the recently installed CEO, is ultimately responsible for these firing decisions, yes?

                      And the Wikimedia Board of Trustees were responsible for installing current CEO Meehan, yes?

                      So finding the Trump regime loyalists is kinda like a game of Werewolf?

                      https://wikimediafoundation.org/role/board/

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                      • castanea_jo@ni.hil.istC castanea_jo@ni.hil.ist

                        @nora @JakeOrlowitz The bigger list for people to sign: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Workers_United

                        castanea_jo@ni.hil.istC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @nora @JakeOrlowitz This is a different and bigger petition saying you will stand for an editorial strike, and is for editors only if I read it correctly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Workers_United_solidarity

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                        • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                          I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

                          dalehagglund@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @JakeOrlowitz Thank you for this article, it's very concerning.

                          I'm not someone who's ever edited wikipedia, so the petition link doesn't seem quite right for me (at least as far as I can tell). Are you (or anybody else reading this) aware of a more general petition for wikipedia users and supporters to make their opposition to this change known.

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                          • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                            I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

                            troglet@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @JakeOrlowitz Cancelling my donation today. Sigh.

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                            • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                              I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

                              swordgeek@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @JakeOrlowitz if capitalists are in charge, wikipedia is doomed. The path is always the same:

                              * we can run this more efficiently
                              * we can generate more revenue
                              * staying nonprofit will hurt our bottom line

                              MEC in Canada is a perfect example of what will happen to Wikipedia if this doesn't go unchecked.

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                              • garrickwinter@mastodon.socialG garrickwinter@mastodon.social

                                @JakeOrlowitz This is deeply unfortunate. I don't follow Wikimedia's internal community and politics much but I'd always hoped they'd continue steering things fairly well.

                                This is making me think about what collective ownership of the foundation could look like instead.

                                veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @GarrickWinter I guess we need to decouple everything from the toxic way of doing things in the US. See also Mozilla.

                                @JakeOrlowitz

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                                • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                                  I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

                                  baggypants@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @JakeOrlowitz I guess everyone missed this article from 2014 'Not surprisingly, Jimbo rejected our view that "If you’ve contributed for years to Wikipedia you must now accept a new political economy: you have permanent lower-caste status, and have simply been working hard for other people to get rich."' https://www.theregister.com/software/2014/09/03/jimbo-tells-wikipedians-you-cant-vote-to-disable-key-software-features/656753

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                                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                    @JakeOrlowitz Did someone just decide that everything had to suddenly be awful simultaneously or something? Did I miss a memo?

                                    boud@framapiaf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @gloriouscow You may have missed the "memo" from #JonesDay [1], Wikimedia Foundation's "primary law firm" [3][2]; WMF is one of Jones Day's 9 key clients [4]. JDay has a record of being quite anti-union [5][6][7]. But unless you're a WMF leader, you likely didn't get the memo.

                                    @JakeOrlowitz

                                    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_Day

                                    [2] https://wikimediapolicy.medium.com/victory-in-the-us-court-dismisses-lomax-v-wikimedia-foundation-bf05bbb21459

                                    [3] https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/wikipedias-deep-ties-to-big-tech

                                    [4] https://www.legal500.com/rankings/ranking/c-united-states/intellectual-property/trademarks-non-contentious-including-prosecution-portfolio-management-and-licensing/50505-jones-day

                                    [5] https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2018/12/17/boston-globe-hires-law-firm-known-for-taking-hard.html

                                    [6] https://web.archive.org/web/20250930003827/https://www.cjr.org/analysis/jones-day-unions-slate-strike.php

                                    [7] https://dcist.com/story/21/12/14/politics-prose-bookstore-employees-unionize

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                                    • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                                      I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

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                                      #18

                                      @JakeOrlowitz when there's a mutual aid fund for the hurting Wikipedia unionizers, I'll switch over my donations until this is resolved.

                                      This is an excellent opportunity to show them the power of the people.

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                                      • jakeorlowitz@mastodon.socialJ jakeorlowitz@mastodon.social

                                        I'm not happy about writing this, but too many people I care about are hurting, and it's preventable. https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943 #Wikipedia

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                                        #19

                                        @JakeOrlowitz im taking a shit

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                                        • cmdrmoto@hachyderm.ioC cmdrmoto@hachyderm.io

                                          @JakeOrlowitz Bernadette Meehan, as the recently installed CEO, is ultimately responsible for these firing decisions, yes?

                                          And the Wikimedia Board of Trustees were responsible for installing current CEO Meehan, yes?

                                          So finding the Trump regime loyalists is kinda like a game of Werewolf?

                                          https://wikimediafoundation.org/role/board/

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                                          #20

                                          @JakeOrlowitz also has anyone done a cross reference between the Wikimedia Board / C-suite officers and the #epstein files?

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