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  3. When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

    That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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    #175

    @futurebird 7 * 8 ? This is how I do it i my head 😉

    0111
    1000
    ______ apply logical AND of each bit in multiplier to the multiplicand and shift results to match bit position in the multiplier.

    ---0000
    --0000.
    -0000..
    0111... (add all these 4)
    _________
    0111000 = 8 + 16 + 32 =56 !

    7 * 5 :
    0111
    0101
    ------
    ...0111
    ..0000.
    .0111..
    000...
    ---------
    010011 = 32 + 2 + 1 = 35 !

    (your question prompted search I had been meaning to do for long on how CPU multiply).

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

      That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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      #176

      @futurebird At grade school we had to memorize multiplcation table up to 12. I assume kids these days just press the button and ask Siri 😞

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

        That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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        #177

        @futurebird Computer science is largely just a sillier version of math in general, so I've memorized single digit addition and multiplication, as well as powers of 2 which are important to computers.
        I have to manually carry for anything beyond a single digit, which slows me down.

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        • madengineering@hachyderm.ioM madengineering@hachyderm.io

          @futurebird Computer science is largely just a sillier version of math in general, so I've memorized single digit addition and multiplication, as well as powers of 2 which are important to computers.
          I have to manually carry for anything beyond a single digit, which slows me down.

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          #178

          @futurebird My ex had this thing where, inspired by her father's love of dominoes, would see the numbers as domino pips, and she would quickly smash them together and they'd rearrange and she'd have the answer in half the time it would take me.
          It wouldn't work on more complex operations like square roots though.

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            @jitterted

            * because 7 is greater than 5 most of the time when you add it to a two digit number you must carry which is another opportunity to make an error.

            * it is not a multiple of 2 so you can't use counting by twos to help

            * 9 is easy and there are may tricks to remember the multiples of 9s

            * Therefore 7 is the most troublesome number.

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            #179

            @futurebird @jitterted also: no useful mnemonics for divisibility by 7

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

              That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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              #180

              @futurebird I have the multiplication table memorized.
              It's the addition table I never got down.
              I think I was 50 before I finally trusted myself enough to add some numbers without counting up. Like, "3 has three points, count them, 1, 2, 3."

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                @jitterted

                * because 7 is greater than 5 most of the time when you add it to a two digit number you must carry which is another opportunity to make an error.

                * it is not a multiple of 2 so you can't use counting by twos to help

                * 9 is easy and there are may tricks to remember the multiples of 9s

                * Therefore 7 is the most troublesome number.

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                #181

                @futurebird @jitterted And 7 has no easy pattern to learn. The easiest way to may be to flip it with the commutative property. You may not have 7 x 8 memorized, but you do know 8 x 7.
                7 x 6 = 6 x 7
                7 x 8 = 8 x 7
                etc.

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                  That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

                  emma@orbital.horseE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #182

                  @futurebird when I was young, my eldest sister helped me drill on the tables. It was also the time Multiplication Rock came out on ABC, so I got that wired into my tiny mammal brain.

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                    That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                    #183

                    @futurebird With this and nearly anything else that needs to be calculated, I use a calculator app. I eschew all math.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                      That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                      #184

                      @futurebird was supposed to memorize the table in school but I didn't so I have to do the math, I'm terrible with memorizing things

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                      • emma@orbital.horseE emma@orbital.horse

                        @futurebird when I was young, my eldest sister helped me drill on the tables. It was also the time Multiplication Rock came out on ABC, so I got that wired into my tiny mammal brain.

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                        #185

                        @emma @futurebird

                        So, the better question is which song do you use?

                        ( I'm kidding, of course, I already know the answer )

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          @jitterted

                          * because 7 is greater than 5 most of the time when you add it to a two digit number you must carry which is another opportunity to make an error.

                          * it is not a multiple of 2 so you can't use counting by twos to help

                          * 9 is easy and there are may tricks to remember the multiples of 9s

                          * Therefore 7 is the most troublesome number.

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                          #186

                          @futurebird @jitterted Seems like just recently the most troublesome number is 4.

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                          • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

                            @futurebird @jitterted Seems like just recently the most troublesome number is 4.

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                            #187

                            @DamonWakes @jitterted

                            In some numerologies 4 is considered feminine while 5 is masculine. So, I always get a little salty when people hate on 4 because it seems vaguely sexist.

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                              That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                              #188

                              @futurebird I have dyscalculia and anything larger than 6x6 I can't do in my head so 7x6 could be 56, I dunno

                              (aside to my middle school math teacher: I carry a calculator everywhere these days, now who's having the last laugh?!)

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                #189

                                @futurebird I simply do not multiply 7*8

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  @DamonWakes @jitterted

                                  In some numerologies 4 is considered feminine while 5 is masculine. So, I always get a little salty when people hate on 4 because it seems vaguely sexist.

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                                  #190

                                  @futurebird @jitterted I was thinking specifically of this: https://www.theregister.com/security/2026/10/20/indian-certification-authority-emudhras-private-keys-compromised-one-of-them-was-the-number-4/5304312 It's become a bit of a meme lately.

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                                  • madengineering@hachyderm.ioM madengineering@hachyderm.io

                                    @futurebird Computer science is largely just a sillier version of math in general, so I've memorized single digit addition and multiplication, as well as powers of 2 which are important to computers.
                                    I have to manually carry for anything beyond a single digit, which slows me down.

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                                    #191

                                    @madengineering

                                    I always imagined she was over-serious the silly child of mathematics is Pure Math

                                    https://sauropods.win/@futurebird/111366068366838326

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                                    • clayfoot@mastodon.socialC clayfoot@mastodon.social

                                      @futurebird @jitterted And 7 has no easy pattern to learn. The easiest way to may be to flip it with the commutative property. You may not have 7 x 8 memorized, but you do know 8 x 7.
                                      7 x 6 = 6 x 7
                                      7 x 8 = 8 x 7
                                      etc.

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                                      #192

                                      @futurebird @jitterted 7 x 7 is a hopeless case. Hopefully, it never comes up.

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                        That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                        #193

                                        @futurebird For me it's connected to my "most remembered" part of multiplication table -> 7*7. Then I just add one more 7 to the result.
                                        It's not that much slower than having it remembered, so I never bothered to "optimize" it.

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                                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                          When you need to multiply 7*8 do you simply have it memorized, or do you need to add, subtract or otherwise connect it to another math fact that you know better?

                                          That is do you simply think "56" or are there more thoughts that lead to 56?

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                                          #194
                                          @futurebird 7749 (or 7642) and then continue the memorized sequence from there
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