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  3. Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

    But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

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    #3

    @futurebird

    Automation and industrialisation could always have been about making people work less.

    It has been about "let's give this job to someone else and pay them less" more often than not. It has been the main direction it went, pretty much since the first Industrial Revolution.

    Back then it led to workers' rights movement and that, in time, shifted things for the better, despite incredible levels of pushback.

    Maybe it's time for another, bigger shift.

    The irony here is that regular people were able to withstand a lot of exploitation, but the rich and powerful just kept pushing, and pushing, and pushing.

    History repeats itself. Hope the bloodier parts of it do not repeat themselves, but at this point I do not see it going any other way.

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    • oddtail@meow.socialO oddtail@meow.social

      @futurebird

      Automation and industrialisation could always have been about making people work less.

      It has been about "let's give this job to someone else and pay them less" more often than not. It has been the main direction it went, pretty much since the first Industrial Revolution.

      Back then it led to workers' rights movement and that, in time, shifted things for the better, despite incredible levels of pushback.

      Maybe it's time for another, bigger shift.

      The irony here is that regular people were able to withstand a lot of exploitation, but the rich and powerful just kept pushing, and pushing, and pushing.

      History repeats itself. Hope the bloodier parts of it do not repeat themselves, but at this point I do not see it going any other way.

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      @futurebird

      Say what you will about old-timey industrialists, but as some points they realised they couldn't win and relented, even a little, before things could escalate even worse.

      I think the rich of today are incapable of that. I am getting more "just before the French Revolution" vibes than "Gilded Age monopolies" vibes.

      Again, I dearly hope I am wrong. It will not just be the rich who will suffer, if we're living in the days before French Revolution Two: Now It's Global.

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

        But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

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        #5

        @futurebird
        I always thought it was odd a company named for a dwindling rainforest called its products 'kindle' and 'fire' and now they feel very torment nexus on the nose.

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

          But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

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          #6

          @futurebird

          AI: Absent Indians

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

            But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

            futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            The representative from Remote was, anxious to get them into a cab and to the hotel.

            "We apologize for the software issue."

            RemoteMaid said the property damage was due to "a bad software update." Paul could not shake the feeling that it looked like the work of a person.

            Every toy in the nursery smashed, all food in the pantry crushed, clothes shredded. The scissors still rested on the dresser.

            But, then he was being hurried away, as if they didn't want him to look too closely. #soon

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              The representative from Remote was, anxious to get them into a cab and to the hotel.

              "We apologize for the software issue."

              RemoteMaid said the property damage was due to "a bad software update." Paul could not shake the feeling that it looked like the work of a person.

              Every toy in the nursery smashed, all food in the pantry crushed, clothes shredded. The scissors still rested on the dresser.

              But, then he was being hurried away, as if they didn't want him to look too closely. #soon

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              #8

              @futurebird got a link to the article you're quoting? Curious to read it…

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              • deivudesu@mastodon.socialD deivudesu@mastodon.social

                @futurebird got a link to the article you're quoting? Curious to read it…

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                @deivudesu

                I'm riffing on fiction which is a bad habit I have. Just trying to imagine where this will all lead. Apologies for not making that clear.

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

                  But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

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                  #10

                  @futurebird
                  More & more it’s seeming like ‘AI’ is basically an abstraction-layer insulting companies from labour exploitation and accountabaility. 🤔

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                  • yonder@spacey.spaceY yonder@spacey.space

                    @futurebird

                    Amazon's Mechanical Turk was, at least, open about it being humans doing the work

                    not that it makes it right or anything

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                    #11

                    @yonder @futurebird Yeah, the only real problem with Mechanical Turk was how little working turk jobs paid anyone. Like low enough that even workers in 3rd world countries wouldn't find it worth their time unless they were desperate.

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                    • thecrushedviolet@mstdn.gamesT thecrushedviolet@mstdn.games

                      @futurebird
                      I always thought it was odd a company named for a dwindling rainforest called its products 'kindle' and 'fire' and now they feel very torment nexus on the nose.

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                      @thecrushedviolet @futurebird

                      Ok, now i feel like an idiot. It wasn't until you said that that I made the connection between "kindle" and it's meaning of setting things on fire. Until now it was always just a random word choice.

                      But now, and especially with the "fire stick"… I'm with you, it's a very fucked up choice for a company named after a rainforest.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

                        But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

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                        @futurebird 👍

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

                          But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

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                          @futurebird@sauropods.win i don't understand how every instance of so-called "reverse centaurs" like this one aren't just investor fraud and/or false advertising
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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

                            But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

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                            @futurebird @gleick

                            A nearby "experimental " Whole Foods had cameras overhead every aisle, and check out – free walk out of the store checkout. The experiment ended, no doubt because the "verifiers "in Southeast Asia --you didn't get your transaction record until an hour or so after you left the store-- were not cost-effective in getting rid of the clerks in the United States🍸😾

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