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  3. DHS was only formed after 9/11.

DHS was only formed after 9/11.

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  • realtegan@wandering.shopR realtegan@wandering.shop

    @virtualbri @StillIRise1963
    The only use for either of them is to round up the employees and toss them in prison. Basically, if you worked for ICE, you should be considered a felon and traitor for the remainder of your life. Same deal with DHS.

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    #14

    @realtegan @virtualbri @StillIRise1963
    That's what they did with the Nazi concentration camp guards. They charged them all as accessories to however many murders happened at their camps.

    Punishing these atrocities is a matter of will. The same useless people as always will shriek about it, but the people who suffered these crimes and fought for the country will be in no mood for that kind of crap.

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    • stillirise1963@mastodon.worldS stillirise1963@mastodon.world

      DHS was only formed after 9/11. We were FINE before it and will be BETTER when it’s disbanded.

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      #15

      @StillIRise1963 check out the new and more accurate way to reach the Homeland security website

      nazis.us

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      • realtegan@wandering.shopR realtegan@wandering.shop

        @virtualbri @StillIRise1963
        The only use for either of them is to round up the employees and toss them in prison. Basically, if you worked for ICE, you should be considered a felon and traitor for the remainder of your life. Same deal with DHS.

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        #16

        @realtegan @virtualbri @StillIRise1963

        Agree, and many of us (on the unamplified left) DID warn people about the entire DHS, but were drowned out by Very Serious™ people.

        I am sure there are quite a number of workers (accounts payable, IT people, clerks, etc.) who thought they were just getting a solid government job and have been (or trying to stay) apolitical.

        That's not possible anymore. If you work under Kristi, unless you are -actively- sabotaging the work, you're a damned traitor.

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        • stillirise1963@mastodon.worldS stillirise1963@mastodon.world

          DHS was only formed after 9/11. We were FINE before it and will be BETTER when it’s disbanded.

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          #17

          @StillIRise1963 but it was formed with responsible public spending in mind by republicans

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          • stillirise1963@mastodon.worldS stillirise1963@mastodon.world

            DHS was only formed after 9/11. We were FINE before it and will be BETTER when it’s disbanded.

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            #18

            @StillIRise1963 wait, is it going away?

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            • mostarr@theforkiverse.comM mostarr@theforkiverse.com

              @StillIRise1963 wait, is it going away?

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              #19

              @mostarr No. But it should. We can make it go away.

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              • stillirise1963@mastodon.worldS stillirise1963@mastodon.world

                DHS was only formed after 9/11. We were FINE before it and will be BETTER when it’s disbanded.

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                #20

                @StillIRise1963 When DHS was formed, I said that they’d end up doing more damage to the US than bin Laden ever did.

                And here we are.

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                • tripleman@mastodon.socialT tripleman@mastodon.social

                  @StillIRise1963 When DHS was formed, I said that they’d end up doing more damage to the US than bin Laden ever did.

                  And here we are.

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                  #21

                  @tripleman @StillIRise1963
                  Before the second tower came down, I was betting on Dubya and his masters doing, well, all of this.

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                  • joshuaacnewman@xeno.glyphpress.comJ joshuaacnewman@xeno.glyphpress.com

                    @tripleman @StillIRise1963
                    Before the second tower came down, I was betting on Dubya and his masters doing, well, all of this.

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                    @tripleman @StillIRise1963
                    The fact that they lost control of the stupid, violent monster they built doesn’t change the fact that they built it and then were dumb enough to think that stupid violence was controllable.

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                    • tripleman@mastodon.socialT tripleman@mastodon.social

                      @StillIRise1963 When DHS was formed, I said that they’d end up doing more damage to the US than bin Laden ever did.

                      And here we are.

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                      #23

                      @tripleman @StillIRise1963 I had exactly the same concern then. The concept of a DHS seemed to me a precursor to a Geheime Staatspolizei. And, as you say, here we are. They are now asking for “papers.”

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                      • tripleman@mastodon.socialT tripleman@mastodon.social

                        @StillIRise1963 When DHS was formed, I said that they’d end up doing more damage to the US than bin Laden ever did.

                        And here we are.

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                        #24

                        @tripleman

                        Yup.

                        "Home land?" Nation of immigrants?

                        Even today no one points out the trivially obvious, that every european is an immigrant.

                        @StillIRise1963

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                        • joshuaacnewman@xeno.glyphpress.comJ joshuaacnewman@xeno.glyphpress.com

                          @tripleman @StillIRise1963
                          The fact that they lost control of the stupid, violent monster they built doesn’t change the fact that they built it and then were dumb enough to think that stupid violence was controllable.

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                          #25

                          @JoshuaACNewman It took longer than I thought, but they're finally bringing the quagmire home. It was inevitable.

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