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  3. I had incredibly dark dreams and did not sleep well, so many people I know have cancer, a fucking AI data center just got approved right near me, and one of the baby goat litters is not doing well.

I had incredibly dark dreams and did not sleep well, so many people I know have cancer, a fucking AI data center just got approved right near me, and one of the baby goat litters is not doing well.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    I had incredibly dark dreams and did not sleep well, so many people I know have cancer, a fucking AI data center just got approved right near me, and one of the baby goat litters is not doing well. Today is hard.

    sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
    sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    A couple of these things I can do nothing about. Some I can.

    One I need help with from you: in a few days I'm giving a talk on the environmental consequences of AI data centres (with a focus on orbit, but starting with ground-based).

    So, fediverse! Please send me your favourite statistic (with citation please) on exactly how bad AI data centres are for the environment. I'm looking for: comparisons on CO2 emissions per centre, water usage per slop-video made, stuff like that.

    grajohnt@chaos.socialG mayintoronto@beige.partyM marleenstikker@waag.socialM michaelgemar@cosocial.caM handmade_ghost@sunny.gardenH 5 Replies Last reply
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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      I had incredibly dark dreams and did not sleep well, so many people I know have cancer, a fucking AI data center just got approved right near me, and one of the baby goat litters is not doing well. Today is hard.

      mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
      mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @sundogplanets I started off hoping you were describing your dreams, but then I realized you had bad dreams AND all those other things are happening. I'm sorry.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        I had incredibly dark dreams and did not sleep well, so many people I know have cancer, a fucking AI data center just got approved right near me, and one of the baby goat litters is not doing well. Today is hard.

        john380@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @sundogplanets hope things improve!

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          I had incredibly dark dreams and did not sleep well, so many people I know have cancer, a fucking AI data center just got approved right near me, and one of the baby goat litters is not doing well. Today is hard.

          stevegis_ssg@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
          stevegis_ssg@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @sundogplanets

          Oh god I'm sorry.

          You work so hard and do so much. The world could cut you some fucking slack already.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            A couple of these things I can do nothing about. Some I can.

            One I need help with from you: in a few days I'm giving a talk on the environmental consequences of AI data centres (with a focus on orbit, but starting with ground-based).

            So, fediverse! Please send me your favourite statistic (with citation please) on exactly how bad AI data centres are for the environment. I'm looking for: comparisons on CO2 emissions per centre, water usage per slop-video made, stuff like that.

            grajohnt@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @sundogplanets ERCOT is (politely and wonkishly) ringing alarm bells in Texas. https://www.ercot.com/news/release/04152026-ercot-releases-preliminary

            This graph is ludicrous. It shows the requests for power to all providers in ERCOT - the growth in the right bars is driven almost entirely by datacenters (particularly in DFW).

            Yes, they're requesting Texas *triple* its power generation over the next six years.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              A couple of these things I can do nothing about. Some I can.

              One I need help with from you: in a few days I'm giving a talk on the environmental consequences of AI data centres (with a focus on orbit, but starting with ground-based).

              So, fediverse! Please send me your favourite statistic (with citation please) on exactly how bad AI data centres are for the environment. I'm looking for: comparisons on CO2 emissions per centre, water usage per slop-video made, stuff like that.

              mayintoronto@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
              mayintoronto@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @sundogplanets AI data centres create localized heat islands, with temperatures going up by several degrees.
              https://arxiv.org/pdf/2603.20897

              News article: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ai-data-centers-significantly-heat-121626690.html

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                A couple of these things I can do nothing about. Some I can.

                One I need help with from you: in a few days I'm giving a talk on the environmental consequences of AI data centres (with a focus on orbit, but starting with ground-based).

                So, fediverse! Please send me your favourite statistic (with citation please) on exactly how bad AI data centres are for the environment. I'm looking for: comparisons on CO2 emissions per centre, water usage per slop-video made, stuff like that.

                marleenstikker@waag.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                marleenstikker@waag.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @sundogplanets https://restofworld.org/2026/global-ewaste-crisis/

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                • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                  @sundogplanets AI data centres create localized heat islands, with temperatures going up by several degrees.
                  https://arxiv.org/pdf/2603.20897

                  News article: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ai-data-centers-significantly-heat-121626690.html

                  cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @mayintoronto @sundogplanets They also make a constant humming/whirring noise https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/communities-are-raising-noise-pollution-concernsabout-data-centers
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JflFFqbZ1X8

                  And there's a lot more you can find about the hardware side. I started my career by working in the first megadatacenters. I can tell you also that investment in hardware is not one-time. We don't think of it this way, but computers wear down the same way cars or anything else do, and these machines are being pushed to their limits, and the amount of e-waste for churning through parts is huge.

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    @mayintoronto @sundogplanets They also make a constant humming/whirring noise https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/communities-are-raising-noise-pollution-concernsabout-data-centers
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JflFFqbZ1X8

                    And there's a lot more you can find about the hardware side. I started my career by working in the first megadatacenters. I can tell you also that investment in hardware is not one-time. We don't think of it this way, but computers wear down the same way cars or anything else do, and these machines are being pushed to their limits, and the amount of e-waste for churning through parts is huge.

                    cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @mayintoronto @sundogplanets Not to mention that hardware gets outdated, machines get entirely replaced fairly regularly.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      A couple of these things I can do nothing about. Some I can.

                      One I need help with from you: in a few days I'm giving a talk on the environmental consequences of AI data centres (with a focus on orbit, but starting with ground-based).

                      So, fediverse! Please send me your favourite statistic (with citation please) on exactly how bad AI data centres are for the environment. I'm looking for: comparisons on CO2 emissions per centre, water usage per slop-video made, stuff like that.

                      michaelgemar@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @sundogplanets Rhetorically it’s interesting to start with the ground-based issues, as on-orbit proponents would presumably argue that they solve many of those problems (power, CO2, water).

                      Of course, they’re disastrous for other reasons…

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        A couple of these things I can do nothing about. Some I can.

                        One I need help with from you: in a few days I'm giving a talk on the environmental consequences of AI data centres (with a focus on orbit, but starting with ground-based).

                        So, fediverse! Please send me your favourite statistic (with citation please) on exactly how bad AI data centres are for the environment. I'm looking for: comparisons on CO2 emissions per centre, water usage per slop-video made, stuff like that.

                        handmade_ghost@sunny.gardenH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @sundogplanets Here in Oregon: "Google built its first data center in The Dalles in 2006. In 2012, the tech giant used 12% of The Dalles water supply. By 2024, a third of The Dalles’ water went to Google’s three local data center sites."

                        More context and data here: https://www.opb.org/article/2026/01/15/as-googles-water-demands-grow-the-dalles-aims-to-pull-more-from-mount-hood-forest/

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