Really sad to see Mozilla committed to such a dystopian vision of the future of the web.
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Really sad to see Mozilla committed to such a dystopian vision of the future of the web.
"While Firefox remains the core of what we do, we also need to take steps to diversify: investing in privacy-respecting advertising to grow new revenue in the near term; developing trustworthy, open source AI to ensure technical and product relevance in the mid term"
source: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-leadership-growth-planning-updates/
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Really sad to see Mozilla committed to such a dystopian vision of the future of the web.
"While Firefox remains the core of what we do, we also need to take steps to diversify: investing in privacy-respecting advertising to grow new revenue in the near term; developing trustworthy, open source AI to ensure technical and product relevance in the mid term"
source: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-leadership-growth-planning-updates/
There is no such thing as privacy-respecting advertising. At least not for any sane definition of "respect"
The arguments are technically nuanced, but I went into it a little a while back: https://mastodon.social/@sarahjamielewis/113199184170538484
Raising money is pointless if doing so compromises the values you claim to stand for.
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There is no such thing as privacy-respecting advertising. At least not for any sane definition of "respect"
The arguments are technically nuanced, but I went into it a little a while back: https://mastodon.social/@sarahjamielewis/113199184170538484
Raising money is pointless if doing so compromises the values you claim to stand for.
Firefox, or at least the ideal of Firefox - an open browser that serves the interests of people rather than corporations is so important.
It's also an incredibly expensive proposition (in part because of how the web has evolved complexity, thanks in part to how corporations have driven, and ultimately practically captured various standards)
I deeply understand Mozilla's desire to continue existing to serve that mission...but it can't be like this.
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Firefox, or at least the ideal of Firefox - an open browser that serves the interests of people rather than corporations is so important.
It's also an incredibly expensive proposition (in part because of how the web has evolved complexity, thanks in part to how corporations have driven, and ultimately practically captured various standards)
I deeply understand Mozilla's desire to continue existing to serve that mission...but it can't be like this.
Many people are in my mentions talking about and/or promoting various firefox forks.
Look, if Mozilla can't afford to keep developing/maintaining firefox without resorting to the sad path, then the question that needs to be asked is how any other organization can? What about the approach is different?
It's one thing to package firefox with some of the bad things turned off. It's another to take on the responsibility of maintaining that codebase sans-mozilla.
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Many people are in my mentions talking about and/or promoting various firefox forks.
Look, if Mozilla can't afford to keep developing/maintaining firefox without resorting to the sad path, then the question that needs to be asked is how any other organization can? What about the approach is different?
It's one thing to package firefox with some of the bad things turned off. It's another to take on the responsibility of maintaining that codebase sans-mozilla.
There is clearly a lot of effort fractured over a lot of projects, perhaps enough to actually take on the task, but I'm not aware of any project committed to a hard fork of firefox, with everything that entails (and if you had the resources to go that route, I'm not convinced that is the best path to take either)
I can only really think of a handful of groups I think have a chance at success, but I don't think any of them are currently considering it.
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There is clearly a lot of effort fractured over a lot of projects, perhaps enough to actually take on the task, but I'm not aware of any project committed to a hard fork of firefox, with everything that entails (and if you had the resources to go that route, I'm not convinced that is the best path to take either)
I can only really think of a handful of groups I think have a chance at success, but I don't think any of them are currently considering it.
I think Tor Project are probably best placed to do it - they are already as close to maintaining a hard fork of firefox you can be without actually maintaining a hard fork. I understand why they don't - but, if anyone has a shot of making that path work, I think it's them.
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I think Tor Project are probably best placed to do it - they are already as close to maintaining a hard fork of firefox you can be without actually maintaining a hard fork. I understand why they don't - but, if anyone has a shot of making that path work, I think it's them.
That or the dozen+ firefox forks agree to combine their efforts and maintain a shared hard-forked base.
That could work, but it might be a bigger ask.
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That or the dozen+ firefox forks agree to combine their efforts and maintain a shared hard-forked base.
That could work, but it might be a bigger ask.
Really, what I would love to see is a project with a vision and principles.
Where is the browser with activity pub integration? Where is the browser with rss feeds? Where is the browser that doesn't have to disable the tracking crap, because it simply doesn't exist in the first place?
If we want a web that works for the people, we need to build a browser that takes responsibility for those values.
While understanding that that is a damn expensive thing to ask.
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Really, what I would love to see is a project with a vision and principles.
Where is the browser with activity pub integration? Where is the browser with rss feeds? Where is the browser that doesn't have to disable the tracking crap, because it simply doesn't exist in the first place?
If we want a web that works for the people, we need to build a browser that takes responsibility for those values.
While understanding that that is a damn expensive thing to ask.
@sarahjamielewis I agree that we need AP baked into a browser.
