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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @paraw @HennaVirkkunen

    i wish you luck on the education effort

    i think #AI is another version of the #crypto bubble but instead of hooking starry-eyed gambling degenerates, AI has hooked a certain class of business and govt bureaucrat

    when crypto craters it destroys some randos

    but when AI craters it's going to kill companies and leave govts strained

    it's #technofetishization

    suits jumping on a gossipy trendy buzzword bandwagon. little concrete benefit and, as you say, little understanding

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    #364

    @benroyce @paraw @HennaVirkkunen
    Somewhat reminds of the fact that throughout history kings and the like often employed alchemists in order to discover how to turn lead into gold.

    Except that people at the time had more reason to believe that turning lead into gold should be possible than we have to believe that LLMs will achieve AGI... and the alchemy stuff ended up actually significantly expanding human knowledge.

    So I guess people in the future will think us more foolish than alchemists.

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    • paraw@mathstodon.xyzP paraw@mathstodon.xyz

      @benroyce @HennaVirkkunen Ben, the problem is that many politicians are actually ignorant about what AI *actually* is. I'm writing this without moral judgment. Even a large number of colleagues are unaware of the way AI works, and of what it can and can't do. Thus, it's quite understandable that politicians believe the hype that companies and media promote, and believe AI will boost computing capabilities, or enable new scientific paradigms, without realising that it cannot discover what is not already there. So, the real problem is how to educate our politicians. I try to do my part whenever I have the occasion or I'm given the possibilities, but I feel this is a titanic endeavour.

      mkoek@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #365

      @paraw @benroyce @HennaVirkkunen There’s a sudden fear now in Europe of being dependent on the US and China, and that’s a good development. However we should not simply be copying what Silicon Valley is doing, that’s not independence.

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      • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

        Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

        I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

        This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

        https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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        #366

        @HennaVirkkunen
        Get AI the fuck out of everywhere. Houses can't get hooked up to the overloaded grid in regions of the Netherlands, and now a major river is too low to be navigable or used for irrigating crops.

        These parasitic data centers are destroying Europe. Unelect and investigate the finances of every politician enabling them.

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        • j12t@j12t.socialJ j12t@j12t.social

          I want to applaud @HennaVirkkunen for posting here on what the EC is up to, even if many in the Fediverse are opposed to it. Like this AI Gigafactories plan.

          Democracies only work if there are places where people can speak their minds and governments hear what they say. Without the potential manipulation of a self-interested commercial party in the middle.

          Maybe the Fediverse can become such a place as European tech sovereignty projects progress and (hopefully!) more EU citizens participate.

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          #367

          @j12t @HennaVirkkunen
          Except they aren't asking us what we want - they're telling us what's going to happen. Because they don't care what we have to say about it.

          Sure we can respond, but the person posting will not read it or respond to us. This is not a conversation with them, it's the posting of an edict.

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          • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

            Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

            I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

            This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

            https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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            #368

            @HennaVirkkunen This is beyond absurd and only serves interests against the EU.

            Fund microelectronics startups and chip foundries so that Europe has the capacity to create and manufacture faster, competitive, more efficient ICs without depending on supply from foreign sources. Streamline funding for SMEs. Increase funding for public education - there's an untapped potential in the poorest population segments. Open much larger immigration quotas for university students from poor countries, with free tuition so that EU universities and research centers become the aspiration for millions outside our small borders.

            But you instead announce millions of euros will be spent (not invested) in short lived components from foreign companies that will require enormous amounts of energy. That, during a historic heatwave.

            One can only hope this is a PR stunt aimed at transatlantic relations, and the bubble bursts or the transatlantic situation changes before this self harm is actually inflicted.

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            • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

              Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

              I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

              This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

              https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

              daswarkeinhuhn@netzkae.seD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #369

              @HennaVirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu what ist wrong with you

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              • mkoek@mastodon.nlM mkoek@mastodon.nl

                @paraw @benroyce @HennaVirkkunen There’s a sudden fear now in Europe of being dependent on the US and China, and that’s a good development. However we should not simply be copying what Silicon Valley is doing, that’s not independence.

                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #370

                @mkoek @paraw @HennaVirkkunen

                yeah

                chart your own path. learn from our mistakes. follow at a cautious distance

                don't repeat our mistakes by desperately shadowing usa and china's techbro bonfire

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                • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                  Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                  I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                  This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                  https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

                  pcdevil@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #371

                  @HennaVirkkunen I believe that 30 billion Euro could be spent in much better cause when hundreds of thousands of EU citizens suffer the consequences of the climate crisis, rather than participating in a pointless technology arms race without any clear benefit.

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    @HennaVirkkunen it's good to see Europe investing in digital sovereignty.

                    me_valentijn@m.ai6yr.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    me_valentijn@m.ai6yr.org
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                    #372

                    @evan @HennaVirkkunen
                    I'd rather have sufficient water and electricity than more locally produced slop.

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                    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                      Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                      I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                      This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                      https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                      dodo_sipping@cupoftea.social
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                      #373

                      @HennaVirkkunen thoughts & prayers. This your new god will suck the life from this planet.

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                      • painting_squirrel@muenchen.socialP painting_squirrel@muenchen.social

                        @benroyce @paraw @HennaVirkkunen
                        Somewhat reminds of the fact that throughout history kings and the like often employed alchemists in order to discover how to turn lead into gold.

                        Except that people at the time had more reason to believe that turning lead into gold should be possible than we have to believe that LLMs will achieve AGI... and the alchemy stuff ended up actually significantly expanding human knowledge.

                        So I guess people in the future will think us more foolish than alchemists.

                        benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #374

                        @painting_squirrel @paraw @HennaVirkkunen

                        yeah

                        and at the end of the blossoming of real science from alchemy's superstitious foundations, we wound up actually turning lead into gold in a particle accelerator. at ridiculous cost and in infinitesimal quantities, but we did it

                        some massive computations persuasively mimicking human speech and human knowledge (dangerously, approximately) is as far from real intelligence as a goldfish. no insult to goldfish, they're smarter than AI

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                        • daswarkeinhuhn@netzkae.seD daswarkeinhuhn@netzkae.se

                          @HennaVirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu what ist wrong with you

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                          jesterchen@social.tchncs.de
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                          #375

                          @daswarkeinhuhn @HennaVirkkunen This question deserves a trophy. Here you are: 🏆️

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                          • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                            Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                            I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                            This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                            https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

                            astifter@mastodon.astifter.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #376

                            @HennaVirkkunen Or as we would say here in Vienna:
                            Na des is jo a sehr guate Idee.
                            (Dripping with sarcasm.)

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                            • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                              Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                              I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                              This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                              https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                              kuulman@social.tchncs.de
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                              #377

                              @HennaVirkkunen
                              Laskentatehoa ChatControllia varten. Samaan aikaan Leopoldin puistossa iso läjä kodittomia.

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                              • jesterchen@social.tchncs.deJ jesterchen@social.tchncs.de

                                @daswarkeinhuhn @HennaVirkkunen This question deserves a trophy. Here you are: 🏆️

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                                jesterchen@social.tchncs.de
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                                #378

                                @daswarkeinhuhn And for @HennaVirkkunen to get the right context: https://xoxo.zone/@Ashedryden/117008696441920540

                                AI is on the way to its demise. Never feed the hype.

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                                • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                                  Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                                  I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                                  This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                                  https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                                  #379

                                  @HennaVirkkunen

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                                  • remaster@mastodon.socialR remaster@mastodon.social

                                    @HennaVirkkunen We should be investing in renewable energy and battery storage instead. AI adds little value for humankind, with significant downsides.

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                                    #380

                                    @remaster @HennaVirkkunen I disagree, 'ai' produces NO benefit for mankind.

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                                    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                                      Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                                      I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                                      This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                                      https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                                      paularinkeli@mastoart.social
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                                      #381

                                      @HennaVirkkunen I'd rather see Europe as a continent of natural, genuine intelligence.

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                                      • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                                        Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                                        I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                                        This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                                        https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                                        wendinoakland@beige.party
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                                        #382

                                        @HennaVirkkunen insanity!

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                                        • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                                          Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                                          I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                                          This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                                          https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                                          amosmulder@mastodon.social
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                                          #383

                                          @HennaVirkkunen Quite disturbing! Maybe first ask the citizens of Europe whether they even want to become an AI continent?

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