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  3. When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.

When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.

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  • jascha@ohai.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

    elvith@nerdculture.deE rogerbw@discordian.socialR cyberia@tilde.zoneC abdulrahmanandmyfamily@mastodon.socialA lizardbill@hachyderm.ioL 27 Replies Last reply
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    • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

      When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

      elvith@nerdculture.deE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @jascha
      "Scientists don't want you to know" usually translates to "Scientists want to tell the truth (or what they established as truth so far). But that doesn't sell my products/services/world view... so I'm making some shit up and hope you don't realize it."

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      • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

        When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

        rogerbw@discordian.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @jascha Scientists probably don't want you to listen to flat earth no-vaccines guy, but that's because someone did the debunking 50 years ago back when that seemed worth doing.

        anatomical_normalcy@mastodon.socialA leeloo@chaosfem.twL 2 Replies Last reply
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        • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

          When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

          cyberia@tilde.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @jascha https://stockportflat.earth/

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          • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

            When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

            abdulrahmanandmyfamily@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @jascha

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            including 7 children
            The war destroyed my business leaving us without any income We struggle daily to provide food medicine basic necessities for our children
            We never imagined we would have to ask for help but today we desperately need it
            Any donation no matter how small will help our children survive and regain hope
            Thank you for your generosity and supporthttps://gofund.me/6eed71fa

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            • tanyakaroli@expressional.socialT tanyakaroli@expressional.social shared this topic
            • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

              When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

              lizardbill@hachyderm.ioL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @jascha "Scientists paid to make their research open access" doesn't have the same ring to it.

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              • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                knowprose@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @jascha it's the whole point of science.

                The friction occurs because of who funds studies, etc. And that can be legitimate.

                But science itself is just science.

                Every conversation I have had where I encountered this, I made that point. And it sticks.

                There is bias in some aspects of what is *presented* as science.

                But that's not science.

                Science is not marketing. So I point to that. 🙃

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                • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                  When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                  ben@mastodon.lubar.meB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @jascha scientists do not want you to know their password and three security questions

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                  • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                    When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                    octaviaconamore@cutie.cityO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @jascha @chirpbirb they also tend to want to talk about what they *don't* know

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                    • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                      When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                      mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @jascha Yeah. Have you ever tried talking to a scientist about their field of study? I don't particularly recommend it; once you get them going, it's damn near impossible to get them to shut up! 😉

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                      • mkj@social.mkj.earthM mkj@social.mkj.earth

                        @jascha Yeah. Have you ever tried talking to a scientist about their field of study? I don't particularly recommend it; once you get them going, it's damn near impossible to get them to shut up! 😉

                        rabidchaos@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @mkj @jascha ... You still haven't said why I shouldn't? All I heard is why I should. 😛

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                        • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                          When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                          sverik@kogumus.masto.hostS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @jascha Scientists don't want you to know about Roko's Basilisk.

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                          • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                            When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                            einspossum@chaos.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @jascha scientists dont want you to know that they said "you too" to the waiter that told them "bon apetit".

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                            • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                              When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                              kimlockhartga@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @jascha

                              . . . this one neat trick. ugh.

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                              • rogerbw@discordian.socialR rogerbw@discordian.social

                                @jascha Scientists probably don't want you to listen to flat earth no-vaccines guy, but that's because someone did the debunking 50 years ago back when that seemed worth doing.

                                anatomical_normalcy@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @RogerBW @jascha
                                Scientists don't want to bother debunking Flat Earth because someone already did that with a stick thousands of years ago

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                                • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                                  When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                                  chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @jascha

                                  Oh please someone read this paper. Anyone! Anyone with a heartbeat please read this paper. Here.

                                  The assholes at Elsevier put it behind a paywall but here's a preprint you can share with anyone else who has a heartbeat.

                                  Please for the love of God. Anyone read this!!!

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                                  • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

                                    @jascha it's the whole point of science.

                                    The friction occurs because of who funds studies, etc. And that can be legitimate.

                                    But science itself is just science.

                                    Every conversation I have had where I encountered this, I made that point. And it sticks.

                                    There is bias in some aspects of what is *presented* as science.

                                    But that's not science.

                                    Science is not marketing. So I point to that. 🙃

                                    noplasticshower@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    noplasticshower@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @knowprose @jascha one of the reasons we founded BIML was to do science unencumbered by marketing pressure #MLsec

                                    https://berryvilleiml.com/

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                                    • noplasticshower@infosec.exchangeN noplasticshower@infosec.exchange

                                      @knowprose @jascha one of the reasons we founded BIML was to do science unencumbered by marketing pressure #MLsec

                                      https://berryvilleiml.com/

                                      knowprose@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @noplasticshower @jascha One of the many reasons I follow you.

                                      My own writing tends toward the same thing, but I am not a scientist. I just follow coherence. It takes me to interesting places. 🙂

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                                      • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                                        When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                                        dianora@ottawa.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @jascha They sure sound enthusiastic on https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks 😉

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                                        • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

                                          @noplasticshower @jascha One of the many reasons I follow you.

                                          My own writing tends toward the same thing, but I am not a scientist. I just follow coherence. It takes me to interesting places. 🙂

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                                          #20

                                          @knowprose @jascha Thank you for that. Attention is all we need...LOL

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