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  • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

    @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl If it goes much longer it'll become legenDAIRY.

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    #25

    @cR0w @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl gotta kefir moovin

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    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

      I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.

      Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.

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      #26

      @neurovagrant this assumes that they care about killing people, especially women. The tech industry has demonstrated repeatedly that they do not care.

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      • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

        @cR0w @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl gotta kefir moovin

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        #27

        @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl I think the others are feta up with this thread.

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        • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

          @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl I think the others are feta up with this thread.

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          #28

          @cR0w @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl the cream rose to the top, the others hoofed it home but we aren't going a whey

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          • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

            @cR0w @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl the cream rose to the top, the others hoofed it home but we aren't going a whey

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            #29

            @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl maybe they're sCURD of cows

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              #30

              @generalx @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl Those things do like to hide.

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              • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

                @neurovagrant this assumes that they care about killing people, especially women. The tech industry has demonstrated repeatedly that they do not care.

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                #31

                @neurovagrant I just finished reading Careless people which is a totally unsurprising but trashy book about the choices made by Facebook when their product clearly has the potential to and then did kill people. Per the title, they just did not care. Although it would be more correct to say that they cared about other things, like stock price and growth rates more. It took me most of my 20s/30s to wrap my head around the fact that these people were not just dumb or racist or lazy or anything other than actively malicious. Because they don’t think of most people as people.

                ETA: actually it was more like my 30s since it probably started with the first Trump presidency.

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                • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                  @generalx @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl Those things do like to hide.

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                  #32

                  @cR0w @generalx @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl It is not as black and white as that. Not with all these puns people spotted.

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                  • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

                    @neurovagrant I just finished reading Careless people which is a totally unsurprising but trashy book about the choices made by Facebook when their product clearly has the potential to and then did kill people. Per the title, they just did not care. Although it would be more correct to say that they cared about other things, like stock price and growth rates more. It took me most of my 20s/30s to wrap my head around the fact that these people were not just dumb or racist or lazy or anything other than actively malicious. Because they don’t think of most people as people.

                    ETA: actually it was more like my 30s since it probably started with the first Trump presidency.

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                    #33

                    @irene @neurovagrant I would not call it trashy. One assumes that the editors and publishers were aware of the difficulties to come. I’d say the prose is fine given the strength of will just to put it out there.

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                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                      I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.

                      Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.

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                      #34

                      @neurovagrant This seems like the massively important point to hammer home as often(and as loudly and publicly) as possible.

                      There might be some genuine kool-aide drinkers out there(who still shouldn't be allowed near important things); but more than a few "AI" initiatives are pretty cynical exercises in people trying to get away with adjusting spending to match how much they care; and that's not something you want people to get the benefit of the doubt for.

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                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                        @generalx @trashpanda @cR0w @huronbikes @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @mttaggart they're pretty well-done, though

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                        #35

                        @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @cR0w @huronbikes @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @mttaggart a lot of rare talent

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                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                          RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                          I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                          To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                          Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                          The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                          Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                          Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                          #36

                          @neurovagrant yeah people will die if they replace operators with AI, and the people who made those decisions will have blood on their hands.

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                          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                            RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                            I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                            To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                            Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                            The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                            Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                            Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                            #37

                            @neurovagrant
                            @alex

                            Easy Peasy...

                            The so-called "AI" will simply dispatch SWAT any time a pizza is ordered on a 911 call...

                            Why is this difficult??

                            FFS.

                            🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤡🫏🖕🖕💩💩

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                            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                              RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                              I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                              To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                              Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                              The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                              Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                              Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                              #38

                              @neurovagrant automatic voice calls are already annoying. I can’t understand anyone who wants to add onto that.

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                              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                                I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                                To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                                Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                                The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                                Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                                Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                                #39

                                @neurovagrant

                                https://www.newsweek.com/jess-edwards-teen-child-marriage-opposed-republican-ripe-fertile-age-1897512

                                https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/14/why-arent-republicans-thrilled-by-the-fall-in-teen-pregnancies

                                The people funding & enabling AI want the wife beating, marital murder/suicide, & child abuse.

                                Male supremacy is demonstrated through a hierarchy that preserves impunity, entitlement, & unearned privilege.
                                https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/3/13/2373061/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-61/

                                https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/24/2365268/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-60/

                                https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/3/2361277/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-59/

                                Support the GOP & get a DOJ investigation closed.
                                https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/03/southern-baptist-doj-investigation-abuse-ends/

                                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-johnson-responds-domestic-abuse-allegations-max-miller-divorce-rcna345318

                                https://newrepublic.com/post/210178/maga-congressman-miller-accused-beat-ex-wife

                                https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/04/23/us-senate-candidate-royce-white-is-under-order-to-avoid-ex-wife-their-son-over-threats

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                                • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                  RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                                  I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                                  To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                                  Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                                  The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                                  Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                                  Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                                  #40

                                  @neurovagrant I don’t know how much 911 operators get paid, but it’s not enough.

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                                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                    @neurovagrant

                                    https://www.newsweek.com/jess-edwards-teen-child-marriage-opposed-republican-ripe-fertile-age-1897512

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/14/why-arent-republicans-thrilled-by-the-fall-in-teen-pregnancies

                                    The people funding & enabling AI want the wife beating, marital murder/suicide, & child abuse.

                                    Male supremacy is demonstrated through a hierarchy that preserves impunity, entitlement, & unearned privilege.
                                    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/3/13/2373061/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-61/

                                    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/24/2365268/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-60/

                                    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/3/2361277/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-59/

                                    Support the GOP & get a DOJ investigation closed.
                                    https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/03/southern-baptist-doj-investigation-abuse-ends/

                                    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-johnson-responds-domestic-abuse-allegations-max-miller-divorce-rcna345318

                                    https://newrepublic.com/post/210178/maga-congressman-miller-accused-beat-ex-wife

                                    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/04/23/us-senate-candidate-royce-white-is-under-order-to-avoid-ex-wife-their-son-over-threats

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                                    #41

                                    @neurovagrant @Npars01

                                    Child abuse is a polite way of saying these people are pedophile child rapists.

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                                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                      RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                                      I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                                      To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                                      Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                                      The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                                      Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                                      Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                                      #42

                                      @neurovagrant I definitely agree with the point you are making.

                                      Emergency service call dispatchers definitely should not be replaced by AI tech, the human presence is still absolutely essential.

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                                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                        I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.

                                        Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.

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                                        #43

                                        @neurovagrant
                                        Sounds like an exceptionally stupid idea to get the machine that can't even properly take drive-thru food orders right to manage emergency calls.

                                        There's already enough complexity with emergency services. Just getting the right people (fire, ambulance, police) to a particular location with the proper situational information quickly is enough of a challenge.

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                                        • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

                                          @neurovagrant @Npars01

                                          Child abuse is a polite way of saying these people are pedophile child rapists.

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                                          #44

                                          @FranceskaMann @neurovagrant

                                          They definitely support a culture of rape & child abuse, possibly because their own childhoods said violence & abuse was "normal" & saw it as a way to assert identity in a group.

                                          https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-art-flourishing/202104/is-there-link-between-white-supremacy-and-childhood-trauma/amp

                                          https://www.childrenssociety.org.uk/what-we-do/blogs/protecting-children-from-misogyny-manosphere

                                          https://www.mediamatters.org/nick-fuentes/history-america-first-streamer-nick-fuentes-extreme-misogyny

                                          https://www.equimundo.org/making-the-connections-harmful-masculine-norms-and-child-sexual-abuse-and-exploitation/

                                          https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/quiet-collapse-southern-baptist-convention/

                                          The mistreatment of "their inferiors" is a hallmark characteristic of Christian nationalism, white supremacy, & male privilege.

                                          https://imprintnews.org/opinion/white-privilege-in-child-welfare-what-racism-looks-like/44662

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