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  3. I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

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  • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

    I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

    When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

    Entropy loves length.

    I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

    #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

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    #3

    @pheonix every security person has this link memorized by now:
    https://m.xkcd.com/936/

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    • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

      I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

      When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

      Entropy loves length.

      I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

      #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

      dejahentendu@dice.campD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @pheonix sometimes, when I'm driving, my kiddo logs into my work phone to see what an alert was about. They always complain that my password is misspelled. I just smile and shrug. Long and simple, but just a little weird.

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      • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

        I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

        When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

        Entropy loves length.

        I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

        #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

        admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @pheonix Password expiration has not been considered best practice in many years. If they're still doing that I've gotta wonder what other wildly obsolete security measures they might be relying on. Consider a new bank, I have four and none of them do that shit lol

        https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/pdfs/blog-post/problems-forcing-regular-password-expiry.pdf

        https://community.isc2.org/t5/Industry-News/Microsoft-and-NIST-Say-Password-Expiration-Policies-Are-No/td-p/39893

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        • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

          I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

          When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

          Entropy loves length.

          I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

          #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

          lor@goingdark.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
          lor@goingdark.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @pheonix

          The blood of the unicorn is getting harder and harder to source!

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          • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

            I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

            When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

            Entropy loves length.

            I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

            #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

            mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #7

            @pheonix And by the time you're up to six words Diceware, that's the same level of security as 15 random alphanumeric characters (single-cased), at about 45-50 characters (arguably more easily) typed.

            Both about 2^77.

            Yet I keep thinking that "dribble pusher swipe defiling mocker clobber" is likely easier for most people (with enough grasp of English to read this post) to remember and even type out than "zaiv3thaes7lah1".

            #passwords #Diceware

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            • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

              I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

              When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

              Entropy loves length.

              I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

              #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

              sinvega@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @pheonix it is absurd to me that the software I know of that let me do a blank text field with a blank text prompt reminder, and thus is more secure than any other system I've seen, was windows 8

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              • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

                When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

                Entropy loves length.

                I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

                #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

                sinvega@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @pheonix "But your password can be brute force!"

                sure but it's very very long

                "what if you forget?"

                I won't, because of the prompt

                "but the prompt will give it away!"

                anyone who can figure out what the fuck that prompt means is a PSYCHIC ALIEN STALKER

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                • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                  I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

                  When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

                  Entropy loves length.

                  I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

                  #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

                  marcusmasto@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @pheonix

                  So would ColourlessGreenIdeasSleepFuriously be OK?

                  #NoamChomsky

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                  • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                    I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

                    When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

                    Entropy loves length.

                    I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

                    #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

                    retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @pheonix Or, choose a 6 digit pin, but no repeated digits or 3 or more digits in sequence" -- which of course makes it effectively *less* than 6 digits randomness (no repeats brings it down to 10!/4!, but I'm having a hard time estimating the cost of no sequences of 3 or more consecutive digits).

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                    • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                      I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

                      When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

                      Entropy loves length.

                      I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

                      #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

                      greem@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @pheonix mine have changed style over the years, but my most frequently used are now made of Things I Can See when setting a new one.

                      Kinda like "Terrier Cheese Thief Bastard" or similar 🙂

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                      • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                        I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

                        When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

                        Entropy loves length.

                        I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

                        #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

                        madic@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @pheonix And there are still many Systems that don't allow long passwords...
                        Or, way more terrible, the Input field allows an undefined lengths but the Password gets cut silently at some point

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                        • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                          I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

                          When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

                          Entropy loves length.

                          I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

                          #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

                          johns_priv@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #14

                          @pheonix Years ago, as local support I recommended people to use a phrase from a movie, song, or poem they liked as passphrase for the disk encryption.
                          I'll always remember the guy humming "somewhere over the rainbow" while unlocking his laptop.

                          I didn't have the courage to tell him everyone knew his passphrase xDD

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                          • lor@goingdark.socialL lor@goingdark.social

                            @pheonix

                            The blood of the unicorn is getting harder and harder to source!

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                            #15

                            @lor @pheonix

                            Only invisible pink unicorns.

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                            • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                              I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

                              When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

                              Entropy loves length.

                              I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

                              #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

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                              #16

                              @pheonix

                              Regarding the length of your poem, remember that English has about 1.3 bit of entropy per letter.

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                              • pheonix@hachyderm.ioP pheonix@hachyderm.io

                                I've personally grown to hate the security theatre of rotating my bank passwords every six months, especially because of requirements like "must contain one uppercase, one symbol, one lowercase, one special case and the blood of a unicorn."

                                When mathematically, a simple, grammatically incorrect sentence of 25 characters is much harder for a machine to crack than a gibberish 8-character password with symbols.

                                Entropy loves length.

                                I love the idea that the most secure key to your digital life could just be a weird little poem or an inside joke that only you know. Security doesn't have to be painful.

                                #infosec #passwords #cybersecurity #UX #security #sysadmin #programming #foss #linux #privacy #enshittification #reading #finance

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                                #17

                                @pheonix
                                It'H@rd2FindUnic0rnB|00d

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