Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.
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@negative12dollarbill @lisamelton unsolicited advice: have you tried https://phanpy.social/ ? Its a different interface for your mastodon server and it has a very nice alternative feed you might appreciate.
I am not associated, just discovered it myself in the last week. fyi. Ignore if irrelevant
@mikebabcock @lisamelton I have tried it actually. There's also an opinionated iOS app, Sora, but as I say, I don't feel the need.
What I would like to fix is the Explore tab
https://apps.apple.com/au/app/sorasns-for-mastodon-bluesky/id6754866904
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton i'll play devil's advocate on this one. I'm a #mastodon noob. So maybe i'm doing something wrong.
My feed features numerous low-effort posts with no community engagement. One after the other. Is there room for improvement in the algorithm?
I feel that labelling users who voluntarily provide feedback - as 'jackholes', is unnecessary. ( with all due respect
)My 2 cents.
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
Exactly this indeed…
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton you are right! Just found out that following hashtags are a great way to get interest insights in my feed too
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@lisamelton people can be so clueless yet so confident at the same time. Truly amusing.
'jackhole techbro'? I rather be respectful to the tech people as a community than call them with demeaning names. I mean if things are so bad for me than I sure can go back to my good old letter posting. Has no algorithm, does not come from 'techbro', does not need algorithm, no ai, employees my local postman, etc. And yeah, "making friends".
Everything is fine till it fits the propoganda, is it?
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@dusk @lisamelton *Algorythm
@continuity0 allegory them
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@APBBlue Will do! 🫡
@lisamelton yeah, I completely missed the post *but at least looking through your replies gave me so many dudes to block*
omg.
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton I follow people here because there's no bullshit algorithm. Jfc what is it with these braindead people.
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@lisamelton Nah, I'd love it if people that post only when I'm asleep, or people that only post occasionally get bubbled up so that I can read their stuff and not have it buried by folks that post several times a day, every day. "Algorithm" isn't an inherently naughty word.
Agreed, at the end of the day even the ordered by time list of posts we have now is an "algorithm"
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton you're right!
It's not true that "the Fediverse has no algorithm"
The algorithm is just easy to miss because it's implemented not through machines but through ourselves and other people
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@lisamelton i'll play devil's advocate on this one. I'm a #mastodon noob. So maybe i'm doing something wrong.
My feed features numerous low-effort posts with no community engagement. One after the other. Is there room for improvement in the algorithm?
I feel that labelling users who voluntarily provide feedback - as 'jackholes', is unnecessary. ( with all due respect
)My 2 cents.
My feed features numerous low-effort posts with no community engagement. One after the other. Is there room for improvement in the algorithm?
There seems to be some misunderstanding here. Your feed contains the posts by people you follow and the hashtags you follow. There is no algorithmic selection of things to show you beyond that.
The problem is discovery. How do you find people / hashtags to follow that meet your goals for what your feed should contain?
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton I'd like to be able to apply my own algorithm to my home feed, though. Some sort of syntax that you can save as 'filters', similar to how you'd configure a search engine to generate relevant results. People could share and discuss these, and it would foster a deeper understanding of the impact these algorithms have on what people see. My main fear is that instances would pop up that come with 'built in' malicious filters.
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My feed features numerous low-effort posts with no community engagement. One after the other. Is there room for improvement in the algorithm?
There seems to be some misunderstanding here. Your feed contains the posts by people you follow and the hashtags you follow. There is no algorithmic selection of things to show you beyond that.
The problem is discovery. How do you find people / hashtags to follow that meet your goals for what your feed should contain?
hi david, thanks.
I think my misunderstanding stemmed from the fact that, i'm following a popular hashtag with numerous low quality posts. All of which are appearing on my feed. I'm also getting same entity posts
I realise there's a beauty behind a manually selected feed. Many Social Networks will use a hybrid model of a personalised selection and algorithmic filtering.
Noone wants #mastodon to become another Facebook. Let's respect (and learn from) our foe?
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@lisamelton i'll play devil's advocate on this one. I'm a #mastodon noob. So maybe i'm doing something wrong.
My feed features numerous low-effort posts with no community engagement. One after the other. Is there room for improvement in the algorithm?
I feel that labelling users who voluntarily provide feedback - as 'jackholes', is unnecessary. ( with all due respect
)My 2 cents.
@DazRunner @lisamelton Looking at your profile, you are currently following 7 people, so your feed will consist of posts and boosts by those 7 people, plus anything you post or boost. If you want a better feed, you will need to follow more people. It takes time to curate your own feed - you are the algorithm.
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton default automatic feeds are well and good, but there's something special about someone seeing and interacting with your post because they want to, not because they have to (speaking as a creative and content creator of course)
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@DazRunner @lisamelton Looking at your profile, you are currently following 7 people, so your feed will consist of posts and boosts by those 7 people, plus anything you post or boost. If you want a better feed, you will need to follow more people. It takes time to curate your own feed - you are the algorithm.
Hi Hollie,
Thanks
you're right. I am following a small subset of the community. I only joined in the past day or two. There's a beauty to creating your own personalized feed from scratch. I understand this. However, it takes time, energy and expertise. For a poweruser it'll be obvious and natural.
This engenders an element of the 'curse of knowledge' though imo. Where users assume knowledge and skill on behalf of others. I want the community to be my algorithm
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton no one stops him to build his own fork and implement such an algorithm.
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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social
.Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.
Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.
We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.
Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together.
@lisamelton but we do have an automatic default feed algorithm!
That the default automatic feed algorithm is "posts of accounts you follow in chronological order" is beside the point, it's still an algorithm, it's still the default, and it's still automatic.
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Hi Hollie,
Thanks
you're right. I am following a small subset of the community. I only joined in the past day or two. There's a beauty to creating your own personalized feed from scratch. I understand this. However, it takes time, energy and expertise. For a poweruser it'll be obvious and natural.
This engenders an element of the 'curse of knowledge' though imo. Where users assume knowledge and skill on behalf of others. I want the community to be my algorithm
@DazRunner @lisamelton I'm not actually sure what point you are making when you say "I want the community to be my algorithm." You can choose who to follow for your personal feed, and in addition Trending will show you the more popular posts, and Live Feeds gives you the options of seeing your server's posts, or posts on other servers.
