Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
TOS even had a full episode on why it was a good thing to punch nazis and never a good thing to copy them. A full fucking episode.
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Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.
Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.
You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.
@cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer You can't even get to the Federation by building AncestryDotCom. I remember fondly when Counselor Troi identified a living descendant of one of the survivors of a cryonics mishap and I was blown away by her ability to do that without encountering paywalls. The future we want is open source, including open data. -
RWTB: BUT BUT VOYAGER WASN'T WOKE!!
Average Voyager Episode: The Doctor travels to a capitalist society where he teaches the people about the need for universal health care as the Captain is holding a hearing on whether Q has a right to bodily autonomy.
Well at least there's not an episode of TNG where they unfreeze a capitalist from centuries ago and he's a complete blowhard who's unable to adjust to a society not based around capital and profit-seeking.
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@theleftistlawyer Not forgetting that first-ever interracial kiss on prime time TV!
@JTinMI @theleftistlawyer Binge watched TOS recently.
There's a quick moment in an early episode. The turbolift doors open to reveal Uhura. She shoots a look to the two white male lower-ranking crewmembers who were waiting for the lift, and they step out of her way.
This at a time when black people had to step out of white people's way on the sidewalk.
Subtle but powerful.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer starting to really doubt any of them ever really consumed their declared favorite shows and music "before they were woke". More likely they merely observed sounds and colors somehow forming strange opinions independent of reality.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer I think the only books they read were "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Iron Dream." They saw the movie version of LOTR and rooted for the wrong side.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer Point #2 on this list is fun! https://mix979fm.com/ten-things-you-didnt-know-star-trek-creator-gene-roddenberry/
I worked on Star Trek, and right-wingers are not very smart.
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TOS even had a full episode on why it was a good thing to punch nazis and never a good thing to copy them. A full fucking episode.
@CrypticMirror @theleftistlawyer What episode? I've never really watched TOS and I would love to watch this episode.
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RWTB: BUT BUT VOYAGER WASN'T WOKE!!
Average Voyager Episode: The Doctor travels to a capitalist society where he teaches the people about the need for universal health care as the Captain is holding a hearing on whether Q has a right to bodily autonomy.
@theleftistlawyer And Borgs were communists (Borg Queen was Stalin) xD
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@CrypticMirror @theleftistlawyer What episode? I've never really watched TOS and I would love to watch this episode.
@retrosponge @CrypticMirror @theleftistlawyer
"Patterns Of Force"
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@cptbutton @CrypticMirror @theleftistlawyer Thank you!
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Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.
Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.
You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.
@cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer I like Star Trek, but my Orville knowledge is more complete (it's also a mere three seasons heh). This reminds me of one of my favorite moments in the series, and I've been thinking about it a lot lately. "You get all this by becoming better people."
I hope we can become better people.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer And let's not forget the TOS episode that basically called out racism where for half of the episode Kirk and the others couldn't even figure out what people were differentiating their hate for each other on.
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RWTB: Yes but look at all the fighting and war in Deep Space Nine! That's not woke!
Average DS9 episode: The Black captain is having visions from the prophets about fighting racism and his canonically trans best friend is talking with the first officer and chief engineer about their polycule.
@theleftistlawyer I love these posts so much.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer They could just admit they're really into Lycra, but no, they have to get all *weird* about it.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer It's been a great while since I watched TOS. All I can remember is Kirk repeatedly slapping hysterical women. Oh and Abraham Lincoln manifesting on the ship and calling Uhura the N-word.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
Kirk’s anti-AI slop speeches were so elegant, AI would realize the error of their ways and immediately freeze up or commit suicide.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer Kirk literally told us to not be bigots.
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RWTB: BUT BUT VOYAGER WASN'T WOKE!!
Average Voyager Episode: The Doctor travels to a capitalist society where he teaches the people about the need for universal health care as the Captain is holding a hearing on whether Q has a right to bodily autonomy.
@theleftistlawyer What I found amusing in the very first seasons of the Star Trek television series was Kirk's declaration that there was no concept of money in society.
This was in an episode where the USS Enterprise is transported back in time to World War II. I found that surprising.
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Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.
Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.
You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.
@cyberlyra
But Zefram Cochrane only invented warp drive (or got it to work) after WW3, and what caused that? I certainly don't know, but it could gave been Star Trek timelines version of skynet!
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