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  • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

    I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

    two one zaar two
    two two zaar four
    two three zaar six
    two four zaar eight
    two five zaar ten
    two six zaar twelve
    …

    We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

    Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

    two ones are two
    two twos are four
    …

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    #4

    @svat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampersand#Etymology

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    • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

      I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

      two one zaar two
      two two zaar four
      two three zaar six
      two four zaar eight
      two five zaar ten
      two six zaar twelve
      …

      We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

      Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

      two ones are two
      two twos are four
      …

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      #5

      @svat I absolutely love these kinds of persistent “egg corns”!

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      • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

        I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

        two one zaar two
        two two zaar four
        two three zaar six
        two four zaar eight
        two five zaar ten
        two six zaar twelve
        …

        We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

        Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

        two ones are two
        two twos are four
        …

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        #6

        @svat I'm not at all an expert in this, but I can see how fitting the tables into 'four syllables each' and reducing the numbers to not include plurals would sort of do something like 'byte-alignment in our brains that are used to music'.

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        • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

          I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

          two one zaar two
          two two zaar four
          two three zaar six
          two four zaar eight
          two five zaar ten
          two six zaar twelve
          …

          We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

          Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

          two ones are two
          two twos are four
          …

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          #7

          @svat

          👀

          Well isn't that ...

          👀

          "Bizarre"

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          • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

            I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

            two one zaar two
            two two zaar four
            two three zaar six
            two four zaar eight
            two five zaar ten
            two six zaar twelve
            …

            We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

            Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

            two ones are two
            two twos are four
            …

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            #8

            @svat Good way to learn Forth early!

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            • weekend_editor@mathstodon.xyzW weekend_editor@mathstodon.xyz

              @svat

              Somewhat like the mysterious operation I was taught as a child, called "gazinda".

              Supposed to have been "goes into", as in teaching integer division: 3 goes into 6 twice.

              And that was in midwestern American English, taught by a native speaker. There are reasons so many kids *fiercely* resist math.

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              #9

              @weekend_editor @svat Reminds me that my CS 101 professor used "wennsdu" ("wenn du", "if you", with an implied "have") with the rough meaning of "given".

              "Wennsdu ein ix und ein ipsilon" = "given x and y"

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              • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

                I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

                two one zaar two
                two two zaar four
                two three zaar six
                two four zaar eight
                two five zaar ten
                two six zaar twelve
                …

                We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

                Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

                two ones are two
                two twos are four
                …

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                #10

                @svat You must've gone to a fancy school. We were just happy with 'zaaaa' 😉

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                • tessarakt@mastodon.socialT tessarakt@mastodon.social

                  @weekend_editor @svat Reminds me that my CS 101 professor used "wennsdu" ("wenn du", "if you", with an implied "have") with the rough meaning of "given".

                  "Wennsdu ein ix und ein ipsilon" = "given x and y"

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                  #11

                  @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat This probably won't translate well, but in Geometry we had a teacher from Frankonia who would say "the boint B" (der Bunkt B) und write a "P" on the board, and then "the line from A to B" and write A and B on the board and drew a line between them.
                  So if you just listened you had two points in mind, when there were in fact three.

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                  • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

                    I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

                    two one zaar two
                    two two zaar four
                    two three zaar six
                    two four zaar eight
                    two five zaar ten
                    two six zaar twelve
                    …

                    We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

                    Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

                    two ones are two
                    two twos are four
                    …

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                    #12

                    @svat

                    The times table, or rote learning, is a good way of learning certain basic, fixed relationships. The whole class in my primary school would recite them at once. I'm wondering if schools do things differently now? I imagine so, but I can't think of another equally effective way of doing it.

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                    • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

                      I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

                      two one zaar two
                      two two zaar four
                      two three zaar six
                      two four zaar eight
                      two five zaar ten
                      two six zaar twelve
                      …

                      We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

                      Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

                      two ones are two
                      two twos are four
                      …

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                      #13

                      @svat Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
                      A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?

                      From Wikipedia: "Milton Drake, one of the writers, said the song had been based on an English nursery rhyme. According to this story, Drake's four-year-old daughter came home singing, 'Cowzy tweet and sowzy tweet and liddle sharksy doisters.'" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mairzy_Doats

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                      • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                        @svat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampersand#Etymology

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                        @bstacey @svat
                        rebracketing is such a fun phenomenon!
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebracketing

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                        • thechris@norden.socialT thechris@norden.social

                          @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat This probably won't translate well, but in Geometry we had a teacher from Frankonia who would say "the boint B" (der Bunkt B) und write a "P" on the board, and then "the line from A to B" and write A and B on the board and drew a line between them.
                          So if you just listened you had two points in mind, when there were in fact three.

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                          @thechris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat I'm so confused by this one. Was this an error on the instructor's part? Are there supposed to be two or three points really?

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                          • iris@neuromatch.socialI iris@neuromatch.social

                            @thechris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat I'm so confused by this one. Was this an error on the instructor's part? Are there supposed to be two or three points really?

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                            @iris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat There are three points A, B and P, but in the Frankonian dialect "P" is pronounced as "B", so it sounded like only two.

                            (Same with "T", sounds like "D")

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                            • iris@neuromatch.socialI iris@neuromatch.social

                              @thechris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat I'm so confused by this one. Was this an error on the instructor's part? Are there supposed to be two or three points really?

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                              #17

                              @iris @thechris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat
                              Apparently the Frankonian dialect voices their 'P' so they sound like 'B'?

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                              • timjan@social.linux.pizzaT timjan@social.linux.pizza

                                @iris @thechris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat
                                Apparently the Frankonian dialect voices their 'P' so they sound like 'B'?

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                                #18

                                @iris @thechris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat
                                Clue given by the fact the German word for "point" should be "Punkt", not "Bunkt".

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                                • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

                                  I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

                                  two one zaar two
                                  two two zaar four
                                  two three zaar six
                                  two four zaar eight
                                  two five zaar ten
                                  two six zaar twelve
                                  …

                                  We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

                                  Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

                                  two ones are two
                                  two twos are four
                                  …

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                                  @svat 👏

                                  Well told! A whole story unfolds for us. It even includes an unreliable narrator!

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                                  • thechris@norden.socialT thechris@norden.social

                                    @iris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat There are three points A, B and P, but in the Frankonian dialect "P" is pronounced as "B", so it sounded like only two.

                                    (Same with "T", sounds like "D")

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                                    @thechris @iris @tessarakt @weekend_editor @svat Knowledge is power, France is bacon!

                                    😄

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                                    • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

                                      I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

                                      two one zaar two
                                      two two zaar four
                                      two three zaar six
                                      two four zaar eight
                                      two five zaar ten
                                      two six zaar twelve
                                      …

                                      We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

                                      Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

                                      two ones are two
                                      two twos are four
                                      …

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                                      #21

                                      @svat cc @grammargirl

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                                      • hurrynot@mas.toH hurrynot@mas.to

                                        @svat You must've gone to a fancy school. We were just happy with 'zaaaa' 😉

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                                        @hurrynot I think dropping the 'r' was considered the more fancy accent 🙂

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                                        • svat@mathstodon.xyzS svat@mathstodon.xyz

                                          I went to school in India, and we learned the multiplication tables with a chant that involved a postfix operator called "zaar":

                                          two one zaar two
                                          two two zaar four
                                          two three zaar six
                                          two four zaar eight
                                          two five zaar ten
                                          two six zaar twelve
                                          …

                                          We just accepted such a postfix operator as the most natural thing, and freely used it when talking to each other: “what is seven six zaar?” (42)

                                          Some of us were adults before realizing (and some probably never realizing) that these “tables” we all sang as children had probably started as:

                                          two ones are two
                                          two twos are four
                                          …

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                                          #23

                                          @svat language evolves so easily!

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