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Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted.

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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

    @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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    #31

    @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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    • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

      @ricci weird, this seems to omit mastodon.nz and mastodon.au @xrobau

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      #32

      @colinburgess @ricci @xrobau are birds even real?

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      • ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #33

        @jollysea @UlrikeHahn read the post

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        • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

          @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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          #34

          @johan hmm looks like you are not in the host list I'm using for some reason

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

            @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

            Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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            #35

            @ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
            mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
            https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

            @fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

            @colinburgess @xrobau

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            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

              @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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              #36

              @ricci I think its a good idea to own one's mistakes and make it clear when you edit a post. I agree with you on the substance, they are selling themselves for something they are not.

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              • segebodo@chaos.socialS segebodo@chaos.social

                @ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
                mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
                https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

                @fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

                @colinburgess @xrobau

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                #37

                @fedidb @colinburgess @xrobau @Segebodo FWIW I'm not using fedidb for my data, my crawler is documented here: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fetch-nodeinfo-bot.html

                I'm using ipinfo.io for geolocation - but, like fedidb, I can't tell where hosts behind CDNs are automatically. But if they have a system for letting admins indicate their location, and expose it via API, I can maybe get a better guess for some behind CDNs

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                • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                  @ricci I think its a good idea to own one's mistakes and make it clear when you edit a post. I agree with you on the substance, they are selling themselves for something they are not.

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                  #38

                  @jollysea if you look at the post you'll see that I did

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                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                    Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                    But their map is wrong.

                    Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                    https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                    #39

                    @ricci
                    Even naming themselves after X, which is Elon's blind path and not the Twitter many fell into an abusive but somewhat beneficial relationship with, is a red flag.

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                    • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                      @ricci
                      Even naming themselves after X, which is Elon's blind path and not the Twitter many fell into an abusive but somewhat beneficial relationship with, is a red flag.

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                      #40

                      @ozzelot yeah I don't know they think they're trying to do here

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                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                        Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                        But their map is wrong.

                        Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                        https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                        #41

                        @ricci This is so cool!

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                        • phreaknerd@social.tchncs.deP phreaknerd@social.tchncs.de

                          @ricci This is so cool!

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                          #42

                          @phreaknerd glad you like it!

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                          • xrobau@mastodon.auX xrobau@mastodon.au

                            @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                            #43

                            @xrobau @colinburgess @ricci Cannot… resist…

                            Hi, Bruce!

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                            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                              Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                              But their map is wrong.

                              Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                              https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                              #44

                              @ricci
                              I had thought perhaps they weren't showing the local servers in order to protect them.

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                              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                @ozzelot yeah I don't know they think they're trying to do here

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                                #45

                                @ricci
                                I think they're trying to do European Big Tech, blissfully unaware that Big Tech is seen by many as one of America's many illnesses, not a goal to strive towards. (Or aware and they think that point of view is wrong somehow.)

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                                • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                  @ricci
                                  I think they're trying to do European Big Tech, blissfully unaware that Big Tech is seen by many as one of America's many illnesses, not a goal to strive towards. (Or aware and they think that point of view is wrong somehow.)

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                                  #46

                                  @ozzelot that's where I'm at for sure

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                                  • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                                    @ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

                                    Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

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                                    #47

                                    @gimulnautti @ricci Surveillance photo of Eurobros financing the hosting deal

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                                    • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                      @ricci
                                      Even naming themselves after X, which is Elon's blind path and not the Twitter many fell into an abusive but somewhat beneficial relationship with, is a red flag.

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                                      #48
                                      The idea I presume is mainly for Brussels to be able to say "We're not dependent on american big tech" and win good boy points with Evropeans.

                                      It would be nice if all EU government entities used something where their posts could be accessed from the outside, but since i read you'll have to send a photo of your penis in order to use W, I wont hold my breath.

                                      Also let's keep in mind this is a for-profit company. It's not some kind of an official TWITTER of Europe.

                                      CC: @ricci@discuss.systems
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                                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                        Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                        But their map is wrong.

                                        Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                        https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                                        #49

                                        @ricci I don't see any Misskey instance on the map, is it just a bug or Misskey problem?

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                                        • crse@social.linux.pizzaC crse@social.linux.pizza

                                          @ricci I don't see any Misskey instance on the map, is it just a bug or Misskey problem?

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                                          #50

                                          @crse not a "problem" per se, misskey chooses not to report active user numbers, so I have no data on them to report. Plenty of parts of the fediverse opt not to be counted

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