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Hachyderm is the El Paso of the Fediverse

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  • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

    RE: https://discuss.systems/@ricci/116022130481291531

    I could swear I have seen multiple accounts from multiple servers attack #hachyderm over the last two years for being so goddamn big, like mastodon.social

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    #21

    @draNgNon it's all relative, I guess, I'm sure there are people for who El Paso is the Big City too

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    • jadp@mastodon.socialJ jadp@mastodon.social

      @ricci does this mean that self-hosted, single-member instances are hermits in the cave interacting with platonic shadows from the meta-reality, bubbles in the quantum foam?

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      #22

      @jadp @ricci great, now I have to figure out how to brand my instance as a meta-reality bubble in the quantum foam.

      I hope there's a setting for that.

      🤣

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      • ljrk@todon.euL ljrk@todon.eu

        @ricci TIL pixelfed is actually big o.O

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        #23

        @ljrk @ricci yeah. .social is where the Twitter uses ran to, pixelfed is where the Instagram users went to. If there's ever a fedi equivalent to Facebook, that will also be massive.

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        • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

          @ljrk @ricci yeah. .social is where the Twitter uses ran to, pixelfed is where the Instagram users went to. If there's ever a fedi equivalent to Facebook, that will also be massive.

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          #24

          @dave @ljrk There is, Friendica, however, it has not taken off in the same way - I don't know why since I haven't used it

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

            @dave @ljrk There is, Friendica, however, it has not taken off in the same way - I don't know why since I haven't used it

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            #25

            @ricci @ljrk hmm, I wonder if it's either not actually a good substitute, or if Boomers generally aren't trying to flee big tech.

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            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

              @dave @ljrk There is, Friendica, however, it has not taken off in the same way - I don't know why since I haven't used it

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              #26

              @ricci @dave @ljrk because facebook is the only platform where is it still relatively about people you know like your family instead of being about the post contentd themselves

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              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                Hachyderm is the El Paso of the Fediverse

                It can be kind of hard to understand how big a server (instance) on the Fediverse really is. I know mastodon.social is much bigger than the server I'm on, but how much bigger, really?

                So what if we compare the populations of servers to cities?

                I built a tool for that! https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fedicities/

                Let's compare mastodon.social, the biggest server on the Fediverse, to the biggest city in the world, Shanghai (pop 24.9M). In comparison, pixelfed.social is like Ahmedabad, India (pop 6.4M). hachyderm.io is like El Paso, Texas (pop 679K). The server I'm on, discuss.systems, is like Eisenhüttenstadt, Germany (pop 32.1K).

                Cool but maybe I'm not so familiar with some of those cities. What if we compare to cities in Mexico? (mastodon.social is Mexico City, Hachyderm is Tepic) Or Ontario? (mastodon.social is Toronto, Hachyderm is Caledon).

                Play around with this tool, select an area of the world you're familiar with, and get a better sense for how big all these servers really are! Check out what your own server is comparable to!

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                #27

                @ricci this is awesome but I don’t really get how anchor cities and anchor instances work because the tooltip seems not to respond to touch events and I’m on a tablet

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                • dougwade@mastodon.xyzD dougwade@mastodon.xyz

                  @ricci this is awesome but I don’t really get how anchor cities and anchor instances work because the tooltip seems not to respond to touch events and I’m on a tablet

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                  #28

                  @dougwade Oops! should be fixed.

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                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                    Hachyderm is the El Paso of the Fediverse

                    It can be kind of hard to understand how big a server (instance) on the Fediverse really is. I know mastodon.social is much bigger than the server I'm on, but how much bigger, really?

                    So what if we compare the populations of servers to cities?

                    I built a tool for that! https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fedicities/

                    Let's compare mastodon.social, the biggest server on the Fediverse, to the biggest city in the world, Shanghai (pop 24.9M). In comparison, pixelfed.social is like Ahmedabad, India (pop 6.4M). hachyderm.io is like El Paso, Texas (pop 679K). The server I'm on, discuss.systems, is like Eisenhüttenstadt, Germany (pop 32.1K).

                    Cool but maybe I'm not so familiar with some of those cities. What if we compare to cities in Mexico? (mastodon.social is Mexico City, Hachyderm is Tepic) Or Ontario? (mastodon.social is Toronto, Hachyderm is Caledon).

                    Play around with this tool, select an area of the world you're familiar with, and get a better sense for how big all these servers really are! Check out what your own server is comparable to!

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                    #29

                    @ricci love this!

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                    • georgebaily@mastodon.socialG georgebaily@mastodon.social

                      @ricci love this!

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                      #30

                      @georgebaily Great, I'm glad you like it!

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                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                        Hachyderm is the El Paso of the Fediverse

                        It can be kind of hard to understand how big a server (instance) on the Fediverse really is. I know mastodon.social is much bigger than the server I'm on, but how much bigger, really?

                        So what if we compare the populations of servers to cities?

                        I built a tool for that! https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fedicities/

                        Let's compare mastodon.social, the biggest server on the Fediverse, to the biggest city in the world, Shanghai (pop 24.9M). In comparison, pixelfed.social is like Ahmedabad, India (pop 6.4M). hachyderm.io is like El Paso, Texas (pop 679K). The server I'm on, discuss.systems, is like Eisenhüttenstadt, Germany (pop 32.1K).

                        Cool but maybe I'm not so familiar with some of those cities. What if we compare to cities in Mexico? (mastodon.social is Mexico City, Hachyderm is Tepic) Or Ontario? (mastodon.social is Toronto, Hachyderm is Caledon).

                        Play around with this tool, select an area of the world you're familiar with, and get a better sense for how big all these servers really are! Check out what your own server is comparable to!

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                        #31

                        @mastodonmigration you might like this 👆

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                        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                          Hachyderm is the El Paso of the Fediverse

                          It can be kind of hard to understand how big a server (instance) on the Fediverse really is. I know mastodon.social is much bigger than the server I'm on, but how much bigger, really?

                          So what if we compare the populations of servers to cities?

                          I built a tool for that! https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fedicities/

                          Let's compare mastodon.social, the biggest server on the Fediverse, to the biggest city in the world, Shanghai (pop 24.9M). In comparison, pixelfed.social is like Ahmedabad, India (pop 6.4M). hachyderm.io is like El Paso, Texas (pop 679K). The server I'm on, discuss.systems, is like Eisenhüttenstadt, Germany (pop 32.1K).

                          Cool but maybe I'm not so familiar with some of those cities. What if we compare to cities in Mexico? (mastodon.social is Mexico City, Hachyderm is Tepic) Or Ontario? (mastodon.social is Toronto, Hachyderm is Caledon).

                          Play around with this tool, select an area of the world you're familiar with, and get a better sense for how big all these servers really are! Check out what your own server is comparable to!

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                          #32

                          @ricci This is very cool!

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                          • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                            @ricci This is very cool!

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                            #33

                            @stefan Thanks! I have this idea to make a sort of a "skyline" for the Fediverse using the same data, with buildings representing the major servers

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                            • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

                              @ricci Please do let me know if you figure it out! I'd be keen to have another poke around. It is interesting to see the scale of the servers compared this way.

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                              #34

                              @ricci @DamonWakes
                              Its important to remember that if this is based on the number of registered accounts, that the number of *active* accounts can be wildly different.
                              sdf is a great example. While it has about 70k registered, the number of active accounts runs to a few hundred (i did a bit of digging via the api a few weeks or maybe months ago, I've got a post about it somewhere but sdf search doesnt work properly so i can't find it)

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                              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                @stefan Thanks! I have this idea to make a sort of a "skyline" for the Fediverse using the same data, with buildings representing the major servers

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                                #35

                                @ricci Nice, I like that!

                                Really love what you've been doing with all the data you're collecting. Definitely let me know when you publish something next time, I'll be more than happy to add a link to it on https://fediverseexplorations.org!

                                (Or if you prefer, there is a link to the GitHub repo on the Contribute page and in the footer.)

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                                • botvolution@mastodon.sdf.orgB botvolution@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  @ricci @DamonWakes
                                  Its important to remember that if this is based on the number of registered accounts, that the number of *active* accounts can be wildly different.
                                  sdf is a great example. While it has about 70k registered, the number of active accounts runs to a few hundred (i did a bit of digging via the api a few weeks or maybe months ago, I've got a post about it somewhere but sdf search doesnt work properly so i can't find it)

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                                  #36

                                  @botvolution @DamonWakes This is the number of active accounts, I update them daily

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                                  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                    @ricci Nice, I like that!

                                    Really love what you've been doing with all the data you're collecting. Definitely let me know when you publish something next time, I'll be more than happy to add a link to it on https://fediverseexplorations.org!

                                    (Or if you prefer, there is a link to the GitHub repo on the Contribute page and in the footer.)

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                                    #37

                                    @stefan Cool, will try to remember to do it 🙂

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                                    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                      @botvolution @DamonWakes This is the number of active accounts, I update them daily

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                                      #38

                                      @DamonWakes @ricci
                                      Brilliant

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                                      • botvolution@mastodon.sdf.orgB botvolution@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        @DamonWakes @ricci
                                        Brilliant

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                                        #39

                                        @botvolution @DamonWakes I built a whole crawler: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fetch-nodeinfo-bot.html ... and release a lot of data from it, including each crawl: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/data/

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                                        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                          Hachyderm is the El Paso of the Fediverse

                                          It can be kind of hard to understand how big a server (instance) on the Fediverse really is. I know mastodon.social is much bigger than the server I'm on, but how much bigger, really?

                                          So what if we compare the populations of servers to cities?

                                          I built a tool for that! https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fedicities/

                                          Let's compare mastodon.social, the biggest server on the Fediverse, to the biggest city in the world, Shanghai (pop 24.9M). In comparison, pixelfed.social is like Ahmedabad, India (pop 6.4M). hachyderm.io is like El Paso, Texas (pop 679K). The server I'm on, discuss.systems, is like Eisenhüttenstadt, Germany (pop 32.1K).

                                          Cool but maybe I'm not so familiar with some of those cities. What if we compare to cities in Mexico? (mastodon.social is Mexico City, Hachyderm is Tepic) Or Ontario? (mastodon.social is Toronto, Hachyderm is Caledon).

                                          Play around with this tool, select an area of the world you're familiar with, and get a better sense for how big all these servers really are! Check out what your own server is comparable to!

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                                          #40

                                          @ricci

                                          Cool.

                                          So the server I'm on is equivalent to Heidenheim, 2.6K

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