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Yesterday I lost a client.

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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    @iredave I don't think I want to work with them anymore. Unless they'll hire a new manager.

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    #37

    @stefano fair enough, I prefer to charge an AH tax and have an agreed SLA. AH tax could be 5 to 10x my usual rate. 99% of the time I get told no thanks but that's the outcome I really want.

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    • dawnblackbirds@mastodonapp.ukD dawnblackbirds@mastodonapp.uk

      @stefano @iredave I wouldn’t be surprised if that happened.

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      #38

      @DawnBlackbirds @stefano definitely

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      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        Yesterday I lost a client. And I couldn't be happier about it.

        It's a long-standing client, but the management changed a few months ago. On Monday, they requested an emergency intervention, which I handled immediately.

        On Tuesday (yesterday, evening), they asked for a non-urgent enhancement to be closed by Wednesday evening. I explained that due to various reasons (including urgent family matters), I wouldn't be able to finish the task before Friday. That's when the lecturing started: they told me they set tight deadlines even for non-emergencies because "that's the proper way to do things", and anyone working with them must respect them without exception.

        I requested a video call to clarify. I explained that the work requires nearly a full day and that I simply couldn't close it by Wednesday. Even the physical time required to copy the data exceeded their deadline. But the new management believes that by applying pressure, you can overcome anything. Even the laws of physics.

        Their response was sarcastic: "Our requests take priority, even if you are dying". I smiled and reiterated that I had no other way. "We will therefore have to find a new consultant who respects our timing", they said.

        My response: "Okay. Our agreement expired on 31st December. I was waiting for a renewal, but it never arrived. Meaning, I have no legal obligations toward you. You have the data, the passwords, everything. Have a great day.".

        The manager, annoyed and failing to understand the implications, replied: "Fine, we’ll look for someone younger with fewer family ties to manage.".

        This morning, the phone rang. It was the manager, asking me to reconsider. His tone remained contemptuous, so I told him my decision was final. Two minutes later, I got a call from their biggest client - the one responsible for over 50% of their revenue. They had been notified I was leaving and informed the company they would also leave if I was no longer the one supervising their machines.

        I called the manager back, friendly, trying to see if they were willing to change their attitude - to move from peremptory orders to requests between human beings. He started talking about "suing for damages" if they lost their main client because of me (to be clear: I am not taking that client for myself).

        I don’t know how this story will evolve, but right now, I'm just enjoying a breath of fresh air outside my window.

        #IT #FreelanceLife #WorkLifeBalance #ToxicManagement #TechLife #Consulting #SelfEmployed

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        #39

        @stefano well done! Enjoy 😊

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          Yesterday I lost a client. And I couldn't be happier about it.

          It's a long-standing client, but the management changed a few months ago. On Monday, they requested an emergency intervention, which I handled immediately.

          On Tuesday (yesterday, evening), they asked for a non-urgent enhancement to be closed by Wednesday evening. I explained that due to various reasons (including urgent family matters), I wouldn't be able to finish the task before Friday. That's when the lecturing started: they told me they set tight deadlines even for non-emergencies because "that's the proper way to do things", and anyone working with them must respect them without exception.

          I requested a video call to clarify. I explained that the work requires nearly a full day and that I simply couldn't close it by Wednesday. Even the physical time required to copy the data exceeded their deadline. But the new management believes that by applying pressure, you can overcome anything. Even the laws of physics.

          Their response was sarcastic: "Our requests take priority, even if you are dying". I smiled and reiterated that I had no other way. "We will therefore have to find a new consultant who respects our timing", they said.

          My response: "Okay. Our agreement expired on 31st December. I was waiting for a renewal, but it never arrived. Meaning, I have no legal obligations toward you. You have the data, the passwords, everything. Have a great day.".

          The manager, annoyed and failing to understand the implications, replied: "Fine, we’ll look for someone younger with fewer family ties to manage.".

          This morning, the phone rang. It was the manager, asking me to reconsider. His tone remained contemptuous, so I told him my decision was final. Two minutes later, I got a call from their biggest client - the one responsible for over 50% of their revenue. They had been notified I was leaving and informed the company they would also leave if I was no longer the one supervising their machines.

          I called the manager back, friendly, trying to see if they were willing to change their attitude - to move from peremptory orders to requests between human beings. He started talking about "suing for damages" if they lost their main client because of me (to be clear: I am not taking that client for myself).

          I don’t know how this story will evolve, but right now, I'm just enjoying a breath of fresh air outside my window.

          #IT #FreelanceLife #WorkLifeBalance #ToxicManagement #TechLife #Consulting #SelfEmployed

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          tomaoki@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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          #40

          @stefano
          What they need would be "a huge consulting company having 10s of thousands of consultants that any of them can take anyone's jobs at any time", which should be quite expensive. Otherwise shortage should certainly happen sooner or later. If they really want as they said, it should be REALLY needed and unavoidable costs.
          But does the huge consulting company can do the jobs better than tha Barista?😅

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          • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

            @stefano That all sounds decidedly less than professional on your client’s side.

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            #41

            @stefano I work at a globocorp, and we regularly engage consultants. Once there’s a trust relationship, when the consultant says something can’t be done in time, we believe them.

            This looks to like pretty soon, your now-former client will be working only with third-rate consultants. Nobody with alternatives would put up with this bullshit.

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              Yesterday I lost a client. And I couldn't be happier about it.

              It's a long-standing client, but the management changed a few months ago. On Monday, they requested an emergency intervention, which I handled immediately.

              On Tuesday (yesterday, evening), they asked for a non-urgent enhancement to be closed by Wednesday evening. I explained that due to various reasons (including urgent family matters), I wouldn't be able to finish the task before Friday. That's when the lecturing started: they told me they set tight deadlines even for non-emergencies because "that's the proper way to do things", and anyone working with them must respect them without exception.

              I requested a video call to clarify. I explained that the work requires nearly a full day and that I simply couldn't close it by Wednesday. Even the physical time required to copy the data exceeded their deadline. But the new management believes that by applying pressure, you can overcome anything. Even the laws of physics.

              Their response was sarcastic: "Our requests take priority, even if you are dying". I smiled and reiterated that I had no other way. "We will therefore have to find a new consultant who respects our timing", they said.

              My response: "Okay. Our agreement expired on 31st December. I was waiting for a renewal, but it never arrived. Meaning, I have no legal obligations toward you. You have the data, the passwords, everything. Have a great day.".

              The manager, annoyed and failing to understand the implications, replied: "Fine, we’ll look for someone younger with fewer family ties to manage.".

              This morning, the phone rang. It was the manager, asking me to reconsider. His tone remained contemptuous, so I told him my decision was final. Two minutes later, I got a call from their biggest client - the one responsible for over 50% of their revenue. They had been notified I was leaving and informed the company they would also leave if I was no longer the one supervising their machines.

              I called the manager back, friendly, trying to see if they were willing to change their attitude - to move from peremptory orders to requests between human beings. He started talking about "suing for damages" if they lost their main client because of me (to be clear: I am not taking that client for myself).

              I don’t know how this story will evolve, but right now, I'm just enjoying a breath of fresh air outside my window.

              #IT #FreelanceLife #WorkLifeBalance #ToxicManagement #TechLife #Consulting #SelfEmployed

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              #42

              @stefano

              Well done you!!!

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              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @andersgo no, nothing like that. Just one of those managers that thinks they can "win" by being aggressive.

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                tomaoki@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #43

                @stefano @andersgo
                Seemingly the manager is too young and insufficiently experienced?

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                • T tomaoki@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  @stefano @andersgo
                  Seemingly the manager is too young and insufficiently experienced?

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                  stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                  #44

                  @TomAoki @andersgo likely. Not too young - but still young.

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                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                    Yesterday I lost a client. And I couldn't be happier about it.

                    It's a long-standing client, but the management changed a few months ago. On Monday, they requested an emergency intervention, which I handled immediately.

                    On Tuesday (yesterday, evening), they asked for a non-urgent enhancement to be closed by Wednesday evening. I explained that due to various reasons (including urgent family matters), I wouldn't be able to finish the task before Friday. That's when the lecturing started: they told me they set tight deadlines even for non-emergencies because "that's the proper way to do things", and anyone working with them must respect them without exception.

                    I requested a video call to clarify. I explained that the work requires nearly a full day and that I simply couldn't close it by Wednesday. Even the physical time required to copy the data exceeded their deadline. But the new management believes that by applying pressure, you can overcome anything. Even the laws of physics.

                    Their response was sarcastic: "Our requests take priority, even if you are dying". I smiled and reiterated that I had no other way. "We will therefore have to find a new consultant who respects our timing", they said.

                    My response: "Okay. Our agreement expired on 31st December. I was waiting for a renewal, but it never arrived. Meaning, I have no legal obligations toward you. You have the data, the passwords, everything. Have a great day.".

                    The manager, annoyed and failing to understand the implications, replied: "Fine, we’ll look for someone younger with fewer family ties to manage.".

                    This morning, the phone rang. It was the manager, asking me to reconsider. His tone remained contemptuous, so I told him my decision was final. Two minutes later, I got a call from their biggest client - the one responsible for over 50% of their revenue. They had been notified I was leaving and informed the company they would also leave if I was no longer the one supervising their machines.

                    I called the manager back, friendly, trying to see if they were willing to change their attitude - to move from peremptory orders to requests between human beings. He started talking about "suing for damages" if they lost their main client because of me (to be clear: I am not taking that client for myself).

                    I don’t know how this story will evolve, but right now, I'm just enjoying a breath of fresh air outside my window.

                    #IT #FreelanceLife #WorkLifeBalance #ToxicManagement #TechLife #Consulting #SelfEmployed

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                    justinmac84@mastodon.social
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                    #45

                    @stefano I hope they fold.

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                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      Yesterday I lost a client. And I couldn't be happier about it.

                      It's a long-standing client, but the management changed a few months ago. On Monday, they requested an emergency intervention, which I handled immediately.

                      On Tuesday (yesterday, evening), they asked for a non-urgent enhancement to be closed by Wednesday evening. I explained that due to various reasons (including urgent family matters), I wouldn't be able to finish the task before Friday. That's when the lecturing started: they told me they set tight deadlines even for non-emergencies because "that's the proper way to do things", and anyone working with them must respect them without exception.

                      I requested a video call to clarify. I explained that the work requires nearly a full day and that I simply couldn't close it by Wednesday. Even the physical time required to copy the data exceeded their deadline. But the new management believes that by applying pressure, you can overcome anything. Even the laws of physics.

                      Their response was sarcastic: "Our requests take priority, even if you are dying". I smiled and reiterated that I had no other way. "We will therefore have to find a new consultant who respects our timing", they said.

                      My response: "Okay. Our agreement expired on 31st December. I was waiting for a renewal, but it never arrived. Meaning, I have no legal obligations toward you. You have the data, the passwords, everything. Have a great day.".

                      The manager, annoyed and failing to understand the implications, replied: "Fine, we’ll look for someone younger with fewer family ties to manage.".

                      This morning, the phone rang. It was the manager, asking me to reconsider. His tone remained contemptuous, so I told him my decision was final. Two minutes later, I got a call from their biggest client - the one responsible for over 50% of their revenue. They had been notified I was leaving and informed the company they would also leave if I was no longer the one supervising their machines.

                      I called the manager back, friendly, trying to see if they were willing to change their attitude - to move from peremptory orders to requests between human beings. He started talking about "suing for damages" if they lost their main client because of me (to be clear: I am not taking that client for myself).

                      I don’t know how this story will evolve, but right now, I'm just enjoying a breath of fresh air outside my window.

                      #IT #FreelanceLife #WorkLifeBalance #ToxicManagement #TechLife #Consulting #SelfEmployed

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                      menelion@dragonscave.space
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                      #46

                      @stefano "Even if you're dying..." Disgusting, absolutely awful behavior.

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                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        Yesterday I lost a client. And I couldn't be happier about it.

                        It's a long-standing client, but the management changed a few months ago. On Monday, they requested an emergency intervention, which I handled immediately.

                        On Tuesday (yesterday, evening), they asked for a non-urgent enhancement to be closed by Wednesday evening. I explained that due to various reasons (including urgent family matters), I wouldn't be able to finish the task before Friday. That's when the lecturing started: they told me they set tight deadlines even for non-emergencies because "that's the proper way to do things", and anyone working with them must respect them without exception.

                        I requested a video call to clarify. I explained that the work requires nearly a full day and that I simply couldn't close it by Wednesday. Even the physical time required to copy the data exceeded their deadline. But the new management believes that by applying pressure, you can overcome anything. Even the laws of physics.

                        Their response was sarcastic: "Our requests take priority, even if you are dying". I smiled and reiterated that I had no other way. "We will therefore have to find a new consultant who respects our timing", they said.

                        My response: "Okay. Our agreement expired on 31st December. I was waiting for a renewal, but it never arrived. Meaning, I have no legal obligations toward you. You have the data, the passwords, everything. Have a great day.".

                        The manager, annoyed and failing to understand the implications, replied: "Fine, we’ll look for someone younger with fewer family ties to manage.".

                        This morning, the phone rang. It was the manager, asking me to reconsider. His tone remained contemptuous, so I told him my decision was final. Two minutes later, I got a call from their biggest client - the one responsible for over 50% of their revenue. They had been notified I was leaving and informed the company they would also leave if I was no longer the one supervising their machines.

                        I called the manager back, friendly, trying to see if they were willing to change their attitude - to move from peremptory orders to requests between human beings. He started talking about "suing for damages" if they lost their main client because of me (to be clear: I am not taking that client for myself).

                        I don’t know how this story will evolve, but right now, I'm just enjoying a breath of fresh air outside my window.

                        #IT #FreelanceLife #WorkLifeBalance #ToxicManagement #TechLife #Consulting #SelfEmployed

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                        mabande@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #47

                        @stefano Writing this before having read the full reply list, but "I have no legal obligations toward you. You have the data, the passwords, everything. Have a great day." made me smile like I don't know what!
                        Magnificent!

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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          Yesterday I lost a client. And I couldn't be happier about it.

                          It's a long-standing client, but the management changed a few months ago. On Monday, they requested an emergency intervention, which I handled immediately.

                          On Tuesday (yesterday, evening), they asked for a non-urgent enhancement to be closed by Wednesday evening. I explained that due to various reasons (including urgent family matters), I wouldn't be able to finish the task before Friday. That's when the lecturing started: they told me they set tight deadlines even for non-emergencies because "that's the proper way to do things", and anyone working with them must respect them without exception.

                          I requested a video call to clarify. I explained that the work requires nearly a full day and that I simply couldn't close it by Wednesday. Even the physical time required to copy the data exceeded their deadline. But the new management believes that by applying pressure, you can overcome anything. Even the laws of physics.

                          Their response was sarcastic: "Our requests take priority, even if you are dying". I smiled and reiterated that I had no other way. "We will therefore have to find a new consultant who respects our timing", they said.

                          My response: "Okay. Our agreement expired on 31st December. I was waiting for a renewal, but it never arrived. Meaning, I have no legal obligations toward you. You have the data, the passwords, everything. Have a great day.".

                          The manager, annoyed and failing to understand the implications, replied: "Fine, we’ll look for someone younger with fewer family ties to manage.".

                          This morning, the phone rang. It was the manager, asking me to reconsider. His tone remained contemptuous, so I told him my decision was final. Two minutes later, I got a call from their biggest client - the one responsible for over 50% of their revenue. They had been notified I was leaving and informed the company they would also leave if I was no longer the one supervising their machines.

                          I called the manager back, friendly, trying to see if they were willing to change their attitude - to move from peremptory orders to requests between human beings. He started talking about "suing for damages" if they lost their main client because of me (to be clear: I am not taking that client for myself).

                          I don’t know how this story will evolve, but right now, I'm just enjoying a breath of fresh air outside my window.

                          #IT #FreelanceLife #WorkLifeBalance #ToxicManagement #TechLife #Consulting #SelfEmployed

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                          #48

                          @stefano

                          Are you just sharing more recently, or would you say that things are getting more "interesting" in your professional life?

                          (By recently, I mean this case and the attempted burglary)

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                          • mjack@mastodon.bsd.cafeM mjack@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            @stefano

                            Are you just sharing more recently, or would you say that things are getting more "interesting" in your professional life?

                            (By recently, I mean this case and the attempted burglary)

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                            stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #49

                            @mjack both of them. Interesting things are happening and I've decided to share them. I'll also share older stories - but yes, this 2026 seems quite.... interesting...

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