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Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

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  • katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org

    @EUCommission

    I'd be interested in that vertical adapter thingy in the middle that connects the tangle with the green cable. What's it called, and what is its purpose?

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    #34

    @katzenberger @EUCommission USB hub lmao

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    • aliceif@mkultra.x27.oneA aliceif@mkultra.x27.one
      @tofu@is-a.cat @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu up to 240W, USB-C with USB-PD must be available, this is no exclusivity rule.

      Which is a good thing btw, some 200W Gorilla of a "Laptop" I'd rather charge from a barrel plug in daily use than through USB-C (not that I own one). Actual configuration that exists, by the way, high power barrel plug + less power USB-C (Thunderbolt), like on an "Acer Predator Helios Neo 16S AI".
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      #35

      @aliceif @EUCommission magsafe is a waste of space still

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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

        We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

        One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

        We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

        More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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        #36

        @EUCommission corporations still manage to find ways to screw this up though, like Lenovo requiring a very specific USB-C cable in order to charge my YOGA laptop. 😑

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        • derbruesseler@chaos.socialD derbruesseler@chaos.social

          @EUCommission Actually, not quite. I still have devices that use micro and mini USB, and there are plenty of devices that require USB-A to USB-C cables for charging. On top of that, devices need different power adapters—5W, 15W, 20W, 35W, or even more. And cables don’t last forever. So, what’s the real advantage?

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          #37

          @derbruesseler @EUCommission cause this is for new devices lol

          Also since USB-C became standard I no longer have to worry about not being able to charge my stuff in certain situations, or take multiple chargers with me unless I wanna charge my 3DS or something

          I can just charge my phone, laptop, Steam Deck, etc with the same charger and that's just neat

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

            We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

            One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

            We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

            More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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            #38

            @EUCommission

            A standard is good, I just kind of wish USB C wasn't so prone to wearing out quickly and falling out all the time

            Any chance you could force Apple to share their magsafe plugs?

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            • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

              @mmalc @EUCommission @jnfingerle
              Impossible to buy a full USB-C cable in local shops. They are all only wired for USB-2, so no USB-DP, some USB charging modes don't work and no USB-3 speeds.

              Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works.

              Some laptop need more than 20W (typical chargers are only 10W!). Some need more than the 100W (high power).
              All laptops > 20W should have also a dedicated charge port.

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              #39

              @raymaccarthy @mmalc @EUCommission @jnfingerle I've never purchased a laptop that didn't come with a charger though

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                #40

                @EUCommission it’s all fun and games until a newer protocol happens and the speed of government does its thing.

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                • dambranslv@toot.lvD dambranslv@toot.lv

                  @EUCommission USB-C on both ends, right?

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                  #41

                  @dambranslv @EUCommission doesn't matter. If it's usb-c on the laptop, it's backwards compatible with usb-a

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                  • tofu@is-a.catT tofu@is-a.cat

                    @EUCommission so is magsafe banned? I hope it is, that port is a waste of space on these soda can paper weight laptops

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                    #42

                    @tofu @EUCommission no. It isn't.
                    There's just a requirement to have a usb-c port

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                    • sonikku@techhub.socialS sonikku@techhub.social

                      @EUCommission it’s all fun and games until a newer protocol happens and the speed of government does its thing.

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                      #43

                      @Sonikku @EUCommission thankfully a laptop can have more than just one port.... This isn't an issue

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                      • mmalc@mastodon.socialM mmalc@mastodon.social

                        @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                        One of my own examples:

                        VW put USB-C outlets all over the place in the ID.Buzz. Excellent, very considerate.
                        I got a dash-cam with a USB-C charging port…

                        I tried literally over a dozen different USB-C-to USB-C cables trying to get the cam to power up. Each failed.

                        What did work was putting a USB-C to USB-A adapter into the outlet on the car, and plugging the cam into the adapter using its USB-A to USB-C cable. 🤦‍♂️

                        #USB
                        #USBC
                        #Cables

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                        #44

                        @mmalc @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                        LMAO, maybe USB-C just hate USB-C. Sometimes you need one or two mediator in between the plugs.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                          We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                          One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                          We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                          More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                          #45

                          @EUCommission now do display connectors

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                          • mmalc@mastodon.socialM mmalc@mastodon.social

                            @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                            One of my own examples:

                            VW put USB-C outlets all over the place in the ID.Buzz. Excellent, very considerate.
                            I got a dash-cam with a USB-C charging port…

                            I tried literally over a dozen different USB-C-to USB-C cables trying to get the cam to power up. Each failed.

                            What did work was putting a USB-C to USB-A adapter into the outlet on the car, and plugging the cam into the adapter using its USB-A to USB-C cable. 🤦‍♂️

                            #USB
                            #USBC
                            #Cables

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                            #46

                            @mmalc @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle Mandating USB-C doesn't prevent crappy vendors from misusing the connector, badly implenting the standard or maliciously complying.

                            It however improves the overall user experience, by e.g requiring a single charger and cable for your iPhone, your partner's Pixel and your daughter's Kindle.

                            Different product categories will obviously still require different charging bricks due power requirements.

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                              We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                              One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                              We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                              More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                              #47

                              @EUCommission great step forward, even if the USB-C standard is a hot mess of many incompatible things and with most cables not labeled at all.

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                                We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                                One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                                We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                                More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                                #48

                                @EUCommission sweet! Now do e-bikes!

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                                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                                  We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                                  One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                                  We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                                  More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                                  #49

                                  @EUCommission
                                  The best about this all is, that this implies the madatory introduction of USB PD 3.1 with supply of up to 48V and up to 5A which means 240W.
                                  So also for powerful CAD and Gaming Laptops.

                                  Great!

                                  #USBC

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                                  • mmalc@mastodon.socialM mmalc@mastodon.social

                                    @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                                    "Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works."

                                    Q.E.D.

                                    If you're interested to know why, and what you might perhaps do about it, this article may be useful:

                                    https://plugable.com/blogs/news/understanding-usb-c-charging-issues

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                                    #50

                                    @mmalc @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                                    My conventional USB-A Chargers still charge my latest mobile, but not in quick charge.
                                    Which is sufficient for radios, headsets ans such stuff. It also preserves the akku with slow charging overnight.
                                    The bad thing about cables is that there is othen rather shown the data rate but not the power it is able to carry.

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                                      We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                                      One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                                      We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                                      More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                                      #51

                                      @EUCommission you forgot to standardise cables. USB C is already a major downgrade in end-user UX compared to the situation before. 🤬

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                                      • sibrosan@mastodon.socialS sibrosan@mastodon.social

                                        @dambranslv @EUCommission

                                        I think it is not required to have USB-C on both ends of the laptop.

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                                        #52

                                        @sibrosan @dambranslv @EUCommission no, but on both ends of the user.

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                                        • hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH hazelnot@sunbeam.city

                                          @derbruesseler @EUCommission cause this is for new devices lol

                                          Also since USB-C became standard I no longer have to worry about not being able to charge my stuff in certain situations, or take multiple chargers with me unless I wanna charge my 3DS or something

                                          I can just charge my phone, laptop, Steam Deck, etc with the same charger and that's just neat

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                                          #53

                                          @hazelnot I still have devices that need a USB-A to USB-C cable, and I still end up using different chargers. And as for 'less electronic waste': what about all those chargers that became obsolete because of the new directive? Ever thought about that? // @EUCommission

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