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Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere.

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  • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

    Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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    #13

    @kottke get those tools and black box / reverse engineer / open source them ASAP. As soon as the 10 years is up they are going to disappear and it will be another multi year battle to get access.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @kottke

      ukraine had a nice underground economy selling firmware to american farmers that allowed them to hack their tractors

      this was before the stupid ukraine war

      it's one of the things that made me think, combined with the fact ukraine was the technological heart of the old soviet union, that russia had made a colossal mistake

      ukrainian ingenuity is not something to be trifled with

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      #14

      @benroyce @kottke
      Even since the days of the Russian Empire, Ukraine has been the agricultural heartland of the region. Hell, even the colors their flag represent blue skies and wheat fields. They know a thing or three about farming.

      Combining the two - early in the war, I remember reading stories about Ukrainians repurposing captured Russian vehicles for agricultural work. I still get a kick out of that.

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      • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

        Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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        #15

        @kottke
        This is not the victory we are looking for. We must keep pounding companies like this.

        A) 99m into a "fund" is pathetic peanuts for these billionaires. It is a rounding error on the money this abusive crap earns them world wide.

        B) The good behavior ends in 10 years and is limited scope

        C) It has no effect on their monopoly status, bolstering sales actually.

        D) They walk away with "no wrong doing" on the court record.

        It resembles a bribe to the plaintiffs to STFU. 🤔

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        • jargoggles@kolektiva.socialJ jargoggles@kolektiva.social

          @benroyce @kottke
          Even since the days of the Russian Empire, Ukraine has been the agricultural heartland of the region. Hell, even the colors their flag represent blue skies and wheat fields. They know a thing or three about farming.

          Combining the two - early in the war, I remember reading stories about Ukrainians repurposing captured Russian vehicles for agricultural work. I still get a kick out of that.

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          #16

          @jargoggles @kottke

          yup

          video of ukrainian farmers towing away or driving away russian tanks was an early feature of the war

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          • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

            Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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            #17

            @kottke I can't imagine a multi-national company loosing a fight like this and throwing in the towel. I wonder what leverage the tractor owners used to get Deere to give up the fight.

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            • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

              Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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              #18

              @kottke Maybe farmers should stop voting for the conservatives who keep allowing companies to do whatever they want. Imagine not having to sue in the first place, only to get back "somewhere between 26% and 53% of overcharge damages".

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              • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

                @kottke only 10 years, not perpetually!

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                #19

                @kkarhan @kottke also no ruling, just a settlement.

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                • claudius@darmstadt.socialC claudius@darmstadt.social

                  @kkarhan @kottke also no ruling, just a settlement.

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                  #20

                  @claudius @kottke yeah, that is the problem…

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                  • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                    Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                    #21

                    @kottke
                    Great news!

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                    • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                      Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                      #22

                      @kottke

                      This is hugely important. Their model was the oligarchs' fever dream.

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                      • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                        Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                        #23

                        @kottke John Deere needs to start making an electric tractor so farmers aren’t dependent on diesel.

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                        • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                          Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                          #24

                          @kottke 10 years is absolutly nothing, but at least is an start!

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                          • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                            Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                            #25

                            @kottke Yes!

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                            • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                              Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                              #26

                              @kottke Good news!

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                              • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                                Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                                #27

                                @kottke Fuck yes! Finally!

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                                • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                                  Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                                  #28

                                  @kottke if only all software was required to include the tools for maintenance, diagnosis, and repairs.

                                  Ever wondered why there are no third party repair shops for software? It's because almost all software is locked up like John Deere's tractors. Only the owner of the software is allowed to fix issues and it is not you.

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                                  • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                                    Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                                    #29

                                    @kottke yippie

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                                    • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                                      Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                                      #30

                                      @kottke only 99 Million? So it paid off as they for sure made more money than this by locking everything down. I expected something like 500 Billion.
                                      Oh well, then companies will continue doing this.

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                                      • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                                        Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                                        #31

                                        @kottke meanwhile in Oklahoma, https://www.kgou.org/oklahoma-right-to-repair-bill-fails

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                                        • kottke@mastodon.socialK kottke@mastodon.social

                                          Farmers won their right-to-repair fight against John Deere. The settlement includes a 10-year “agreement by Deere to provide ‘the digital tools ​required for the maintenance, diagnosis, and repair’ of tractors, combines, and other machinery”. https://www.thedrive.com/news/john-deere-to-pay-99-million-in-monumental-right-to-repair-settlement

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                                          #32

                                          @kottke Fuck yeah

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