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    Two important reminders:

    1. The actual job of politicians is lobbyism on behalf of the people.

    2. The actual job of the press is to find out the facts when one person says it's raining & another says it isn't.

    Not only is neither obliged to work for corporations & business interests - they both have specific obligations which can be broadly described as "not working for corporations & business interests".

    #democracy #civilization #capitalism

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      Two important reminders:

      1. The actual job of politicians is lobbyism on behalf of the people.

      2. The actual job of the press is to find out the facts when one person says it's raining & another says it isn't.

      Not only is neither obliged to work for corporations & business interests - they both have specific obligations which can be broadly described as "not working for corporations & business interests".

      #democracy #civilization #capitalism

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      @jwcph
      The actual requirement for a politician is to get reelected.

      The actual requirement for a journalist is being paid and published.

      We need to build systems that link their requirements to their purposes.

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        @jwcph
        The actual requirement for a politician is to get reelected.

        The actual requirement for a journalist is being paid and published.

        We need to build systems that link their requirements to their purposes.

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        @notsoloud Well, their job is to get reelected / paid & published *for doing the actual job*!

        It's like that for everyone; nobody is paid to show up at work - we're paid to *actually do the job*.

        We have the system you ask for; we just also have certain groups who, while being paid to work within that system, chase rewards from other systems & face no sanctions for it.

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          @notsoloud Well, their job is to get reelected / paid & published *for doing the actual job*!

          It's like that for everyone; nobody is paid to show up at work - we're paid to *actually do the job*.

          We have the system you ask for; we just also have certain groups who, while being paid to work within that system, chase rewards from other systems & face no sanctions for it.

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          @jwcph
          We do not have the system I asked for.

          (All this is really a discussion of semantics about what having a job means.) So many journalists are paid more or less directly by the corporations. So they get to decide what they're paid for. Which is often different from the public mission statement of the outlet.

          The system is not fit for purpose. It's good that you call attention to the symptoms, but unless we work out another system, we're stuck with them.

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            @jwcph
            We do not have the system I asked for.

            (All this is really a discussion of semantics about what having a job means.) So many journalists are paid more or less directly by the corporations. So they get to decide what they're paid for. Which is often different from the public mission statement of the outlet.

            The system is not fit for purpose. It's good that you call attention to the symptoms, but unless we work out another system, we're stuck with them.

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            @notsoloud I agree; it's about what having a job means. I also agree that we need better systems - but this need would be at least somewhat less pressing if we insisted on upholding the rules of the systems we already have.

            Pretending to hire people for one job, then paying them for doing an entirely different job, is something most sensible people would consider pretty fraudulent, after all.

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