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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

    poulet_benoit@fosstodon.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
    poulet_benoit@fosstodon.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
    poulet_benoit@fosstodon.org
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    #17

    @nixCraft

    US people are so funny 😂

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

      angiebaby@mas.toA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #18

      @nixCraft

      And California of all places.

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

        melroy@mastodon.melroy.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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        melroy@mastodon.melroy.org
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        #19

        @nixCraft fk age verification

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        • strit@mastodon.socialS strit@mastodon.social shared this topic
        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

          lil5@social.last.nlL This user is from outside of this forum
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          lil5@social.last.nl
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #20

          @nixCraft @janvlug “check out FOSS torrents” 😂 Torrent is the best way to download Linux ISO’s

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

            bartv@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @nixCraft That's not 100% accurate - they're showing a warning but I don't think they're actively blocking anything? So it's more like the typical American legal bullcrap.

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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              _elena@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #22

              @nixCraft is this real? 😳😱

              knapjack@snac.gruntle.ccK gvenema@fairmove.netG luca@sironi.xyzL alephoto85@fedi.bobadin.icuA 4 Replies Last reply
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              • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                @nixCraft

                And this bullshit is because of #ageverification garbage regulation too...

                penguintrinity@social.tchncs.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #23

                @agowa338
                Thats basically legislator's and attorney generals seeking to control human behaviour. The #butthechildren argument is just a skape goat to implement the necessary legislature to collect the necessary data.

                Its always a question of data, legislation, cost and time.

                This is the cost-effective way of collecting the necessary data in a relatively short amount of time. Later its just a question of extending the legislation.
                @nixCraft

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  @nixCraft is this real? 😳😱

                  knapjack@snac.gruntle.ccK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  knapjack@snac.gruntle.cc
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                  #24
                  @nixCraft@mastodon.social Looks like: https://natlawreview.com/article/california-introduces-new-age-verification-requirements-software-applications
                  _elena@mastodon.social_ contrasocial@mastodon.socialC spirit@cybernetic.monsterS 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

                    mxalba@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #25

                    @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                    Actually, I think this provides a nice little loophole.

                    The states in question oblige vendors to implement ID checks in their product. They don't oblige users to use an OS that has built-in ID check...

                    So with this move, a resident of these states who downloads and installs MidnightBSD is not breaking their state's laws, they're only breaking MidnightBSD's Ts&Cs. And MidnightBSD isn't breaking those states' laws either, because it specifically excluded use in those states in their Ts&Cs.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      @nixCraft is this real? 😳😱

                      gvenema@fairmove.netG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #26

                      @_elena @nixCraft

                      Yep. It is real. 😞😞😞

                      https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law

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                      • knapjack@snac.gruntle.ccK knapjack@snac.gruntle.cc
                        @nixCraft@mastodon.social Looks like: https://natlawreview.com/article/california-introduces-new-age-verification-requirements-software-applications
                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #27

                        @knapjack 😱

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @nixCraft is this real? 😳😱

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                          #28

                          @_elena @nixCraft

                          Theoretically yes, that's exactly what that stupid California law says.

                          Windows, macOS, Linux—all operating systems.

                          It'll be interesting to see how they think this could ever be implemented in practice.

                          After smartphones, they're trying to screw up computers too.

                          Better to take care of our hardware

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                            #29

                            @nixCraft

                            VPN?

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                            • luca@sironi.xyzL luca@sironi.xyz

                              @_elena @nixCraft

                              Theoretically yes, that's exactly what that stupid California law says.

                              Windows, macOS, Linux—all operating systems.

                              It'll be interesting to see how they think this could ever be implemented in practice.

                              After smartphones, they're trying to screw up computers too.

                              Better to take care of our hardware

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                              #30

                              @luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

                              luca@sironi.xyzL raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.placeR lwriemen@social.librem.oneL 3 Replies Last reply
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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                                slayer256@social.vivaldi.net
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                                #31

                                @nixCraft This will blow over like all the covid laws and be deemed unlawful sooner rather than later if no one just jumps on board. Use a virtual machine to access social if you use em. For anything open source any programmer worth a lil salt can setup a fake age system and we all know kids learn fast

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  @luca Im shocked this is coming from California! Texas or Alabama or Georgia, ok, but California?!? Nothing more dystopian than this

                                  luca@sironi.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #32

                                  @_elena

                                  I have an idea to protect kids too.
                                  You must prove your age to use the microwave oven, that's a dangerous tool

                                  (Grazie commodore 64, ti ho voluto bene)

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                                  • gvenema@fairmove.netG gvenema@fairmove.net

                                    @_elena @nixCraft

                                    Yep. It is real. 😞😞😞

                                    https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law

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                                    #33

                                    @_elena @nixCraft

                                    And this is going to get progressively worse. "Democratic" governments the world over, who are rapidly losing the confidence of their populations, are discovering age-gating as the dreamed of prybar to insert authoritarian control into every nook and cranny of all the devices and networks we use to communicate with each other.

                                    Because, think of the kids! Yeah, well, if you really want to think about kids then maybe the world's adults should make some better life decisions.

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                                    • penguintrinity@social.tchncs.deP penguintrinity@social.tchncs.de

                                      @agowa338
                                      Thats basically legislator's and attorney generals seeking to control human behaviour. The #butthechildren argument is just a skape goat to implement the necessary legislature to collect the necessary data.

                                      Its always a question of data, legislation, cost and time.

                                      This is the cost-effective way of collecting the necessary data in a relatively short amount of time. Later its just a question of extending the legislation.
                                      @nixCraft

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                                      agowa338@chaos.social
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                                      #34

                                      @penguintrinity @nixCraft

                                      We know, you're preaching to the choir.

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                                      • mxalba@blahaj.zoneM mxalba@blahaj.zone

                                        @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                                        Actually, I think this provides a nice little loophole.

                                        The states in question oblige vendors to implement ID checks in their product. They don't oblige users to use an OS that has built-in ID check...

                                        So with this move, a resident of these states who downloads and installs MidnightBSD is not breaking their state's laws, they're only breaking MidnightBSD's Ts&Cs. And MidnightBSD isn't breaking those states' laws either, because it specifically excluded use in those states in their Ts&Cs.

                                        aligorith@mastodon.nzA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        aligorith@mastodon.nz
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                                        #35

                                        @MxAlba @nixCraft
                                        Even more tangential reading:
                                        The legal notice on the download page serves as the age gate: "Do not download if you're a Valley Kid" 😜

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                                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                          Damn 😱 imaging not being able to download your OS because of where you live right now ...

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                                          hnapel@mastodon.social
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                                          #36

                                          @nixCraft

                                          Bad, the progressive nature of California has overreacted, the 'protect the children' gang had a win, but it will be for the worse. How is Mila?

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