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  • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

    Until recently I had an old projector inherented from a university to use for movie nights, but after a rather expensive bulb change the picture started flickering and it is now pretty much unusabe. So I am looking for a new one.

    Things I want:

    • HDMI or DisplayPort
    • A standardized bulb of sorts, if possible - changing the bulb in my old projector was very specific and therefore expensive
    • Reasonable brightness - I want to project across the room onto a white wall
    • Somewhat silent - we have the projector behind us watching movies, so it’s good if it’s not very loud.
    • Available in Europe
    • Affordable

    Things I do not want:

    • Smart functionality or any form of spyware

    It doesn’t need to be super compact, but a smaller form factor is of course an advantage. Most importantly I just want a no-nonsense projector that does the job, is as repairable as possible if something breaks, and ideally doesn’t cost a fortune.

    If there’s a projector that’s reliable enough that it can safely be bought second hand that would be great.

    Edit: I would ideally not pay much more than €600, and I am not very picky when it comes to picture quality - I just want to watch some movies now and then without having to buy a piece of trash with Android on it. I want a projector because I don’t want a TV in my living room, not because I want a full-blown cinema experience at home. I’m sorry I didn’t make this clear right away!

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    violentfart@lemmy.world
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #2

    I currently use a cheap one by Elephas which has proven good for the price.

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    • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

      Until recently I had an old projector inherented from a university to use for movie nights, but after a rather expensive bulb change the picture started flickering and it is now pretty much unusabe. So I am looking for a new one.

      Things I want:

      • HDMI or DisplayPort
      • A standardized bulb of sorts, if possible - changing the bulb in my old projector was very specific and therefore expensive
      • Reasonable brightness - I want to project across the room onto a white wall
      • Somewhat silent - we have the projector behind us watching movies, so it’s good if it’s not very loud.
      • Available in Europe
      • Affordable

      Things I do not want:

      • Smart functionality or any form of spyware

      It doesn’t need to be super compact, but a smaller form factor is of course an advantage. Most importantly I just want a no-nonsense projector that does the job, is as repairable as possible if something breaks, and ideally doesn’t cost a fortune.

      If there’s a projector that’s reliable enough that it can safely be bought second hand that would be great.

      Edit: I would ideally not pay much more than €600, and I am not very picky when it comes to picture quality - I just want to watch some movies now and then without having to buy a piece of trash with Android on it. I want a projector because I don’t want a TV in my living room, not because I want a full-blown cinema experience at home. I’m sorry I didn’t make this clear right away!

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      blue_morpho@lemmy.world
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #3

      Price? I got an Epson 3 LCD 6 months ago that I like. My previous color wheel projector was never great. I could always see rainbows on fast moving objects.

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      • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

        Until recently I had an old projector inherented from a university to use for movie nights, but after a rather expensive bulb change the picture started flickering and it is now pretty much unusabe. So I am looking for a new one.

        Things I want:

        • HDMI or DisplayPort
        • A standardized bulb of sorts, if possible - changing the bulb in my old projector was very specific and therefore expensive
        • Reasonable brightness - I want to project across the room onto a white wall
        • Somewhat silent - we have the projector behind us watching movies, so it’s good if it’s not very loud.
        • Available in Europe
        • Affordable

        Things I do not want:

        • Smart functionality or any form of spyware

        It doesn’t need to be super compact, but a smaller form factor is of course an advantage. Most importantly I just want a no-nonsense projector that does the job, is as repairable as possible if something breaks, and ideally doesn’t cost a fortune.

        If there’s a projector that’s reliable enough that it can safely be bought second hand that would be great.

        Edit: I would ideally not pay much more than €600, and I am not very picky when it comes to picture quality - I just want to watch some movies now and then without having to buy a piece of trash with Android on it. I want a projector because I don’t want a TV in my living room, not because I want a full-blown cinema experience at home. I’m sorry I didn’t make this clear right away!

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        bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
        wrote on sidst redigeret af bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
        #4

        Have you looked at laser projectors? No bulb should be great.

        _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works_ cabbage@piefed.socialC 2 Replies Last reply
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        • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de

          Have you looked at laser projectors? No bulb should be great.

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          _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #5

          LED projectors FTW

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          • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

            Until recently I had an old projector inherented from a university to use for movie nights, but after a rather expensive bulb change the picture started flickering and it is now pretty much unusabe. So I am looking for a new one.

            Things I want:

            • HDMI or DisplayPort
            • A standardized bulb of sorts, if possible - changing the bulb in my old projector was very specific and therefore expensive
            • Reasonable brightness - I want to project across the room onto a white wall
            • Somewhat silent - we have the projector behind us watching movies, so it’s good if it’s not very loud.
            • Available in Europe
            • Affordable

            Things I do not want:

            • Smart functionality or any form of spyware

            It doesn’t need to be super compact, but a smaller form factor is of course an advantage. Most importantly I just want a no-nonsense projector that does the job, is as repairable as possible if something breaks, and ideally doesn’t cost a fortune.

            If there’s a projector that’s reliable enough that it can safely be bought second hand that would be great.

            Edit: I would ideally not pay much more than €600, and I am not very picky when it comes to picture quality - I just want to watch some movies now and then without having to buy a piece of trash with Android on it. I want a projector because I don’t want a TV in my living room, not because I want a full-blown cinema experience at home. I’m sorry I didn’t make this clear right away!

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            _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #6

            We have an Epson 3200 and it’s been pretty great. You’ll need speakers though. It uses LED bulbs that can be replaced, it’s super bright and the bulbs last thousands of hours.

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            • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

              Until recently I had an old projector inherented from a university to use for movie nights, but after a rather expensive bulb change the picture started flickering and it is now pretty much unusabe. So I am looking for a new one.

              Things I want:

              • HDMI or DisplayPort
              • A standardized bulb of sorts, if possible - changing the bulb in my old projector was very specific and therefore expensive
              • Reasonable brightness - I want to project across the room onto a white wall
              • Somewhat silent - we have the projector behind us watching movies, so it’s good if it’s not very loud.
              • Available in Europe
              • Affordable

              Things I do not want:

              • Smart functionality or any form of spyware

              It doesn’t need to be super compact, but a smaller form factor is of course an advantage. Most importantly I just want a no-nonsense projector that does the job, is as repairable as possible if something breaks, and ideally doesn’t cost a fortune.

              If there’s a projector that’s reliable enough that it can safely be bought second hand that would be great.

              Edit: I would ideally not pay much more than €600, and I am not very picky when it comes to picture quality - I just want to watch some movies now and then without having to buy a piece of trash with Android on it. I want a projector because I don’t want a TV in my living room, not because I want a full-blown cinema experience at home. I’m sorry I didn’t make this clear right away!

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              thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #7

              BenQ LK952

              why?
              long life, no bulbs, sharp image, lots of standard ports, no smart crap, 5k lumens, adjustable lens.

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              • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works_ _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works

                We have an Epson 3200 and it’s been pretty great. You’ll need speakers though. It uses LED bulbs that can be replaced, it’s super bright and the bulbs last thousands of hours.

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                cabbage@piefed.social
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #8

                I’ll use a separate sound system in either case, so no built in speakers is more of a feature than a bug. Will check it out, thanks!

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                • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

                  Until recently I had an old projector inherented from a university to use for movie nights, but after a rather expensive bulb change the picture started flickering and it is now pretty much unusabe. So I am looking for a new one.

                  Things I want:

                  • HDMI or DisplayPort
                  • A standardized bulb of sorts, if possible - changing the bulb in my old projector was very specific and therefore expensive
                  • Reasonable brightness - I want to project across the room onto a white wall
                  • Somewhat silent - we have the projector behind us watching movies, so it’s good if it’s not very loud.
                  • Available in Europe
                  • Affordable

                  Things I do not want:

                  • Smart functionality or any form of spyware

                  It doesn’t need to be super compact, but a smaller form factor is of course an advantage. Most importantly I just want a no-nonsense projector that does the job, is as repairable as possible if something breaks, and ideally doesn’t cost a fortune.

                  If there’s a projector that’s reliable enough that it can safely be bought second hand that would be great.

                  Edit: I would ideally not pay much more than €600, and I am not very picky when it comes to picture quality - I just want to watch some movies now and then without having to buy a piece of trash with Android on it. I want a projector because I don’t want a TV in my living room, not because I want a full-blown cinema experience at home. I’m sorry I didn’t make this clear right away!

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                  alert@sh.itjust.works
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #9

                  benq w1070 series
                  lamp ~$10 on AliExpress

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                  • T thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works

                    BenQ LK952

                    why?
                    long life, no bulbs, sharp image, lots of standard ports, no smart crap, 5k lumens, adjustable lens.

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                    cabbage@piefed.social
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #10

                    I should probably have been more precise about budget, but more than a thousand dollars is a bit outside of my price range. Seems like a great projector though, thanks!

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                    • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

                      I’ll use a separate sound system in either case, so no built in speakers is more of a feature than a bug. Will check it out, thanks!

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                      thorry@feddit.org
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #11

                      Be sure to filter for three chip designs when going for a DLP based system. Nothing more annoying than color fringing and shifting on a single chip beamer. The Epson 3200 is a good suggestion.

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                      • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

                        Until recently I had an old projector inherented from a university to use for movie nights, but after a rather expensive bulb change the picture started flickering and it is now pretty much unusabe. So I am looking for a new one.

                        Things I want:

                        • HDMI or DisplayPort
                        • A standardized bulb of sorts, if possible - changing the bulb in my old projector was very specific and therefore expensive
                        • Reasonable brightness - I want to project across the room onto a white wall
                        • Somewhat silent - we have the projector behind us watching movies, so it’s good if it’s not very loud.
                        • Available in Europe
                        • Affordable

                        Things I do not want:

                        • Smart functionality or any form of spyware

                        It doesn’t need to be super compact, but a smaller form factor is of course an advantage. Most importantly I just want a no-nonsense projector that does the job, is as repairable as possible if something breaks, and ideally doesn’t cost a fortune.

                        If there’s a projector that’s reliable enough that it can safely be bought second hand that would be great.

                        Edit: I would ideally not pay much more than €600, and I am not very picky when it comes to picture quality - I just want to watch some movies now and then without having to buy a piece of trash with Android on it. I want a projector because I don’t want a TV in my living room, not because I want a full-blown cinema experience at home. I’m sorry I didn’t make this clear right away!

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                        dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #12

                        With a smart tv(or projector) set up a temporary guest network on your router if it has a mandatory update. Then disable it and never connect to the internet again. Worked for me.

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                        • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works_ _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works

                          LED projectors FTW

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                          cravl@slrpnk.net
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #13

                          The color brightness improvement over DLP is night and day difference.

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                          • B blue_morpho@lemmy.world

                            Price? I got an Epson 3 LCD 6 months ago that I like. My previous color wheel projector was never great. I could always see rainbows on fast moving objects.

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                            cabbage@piefed.social
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #14

                            I should absolutely have specified price in the post - I underestimated how fancy set-ups people get for home use. Paying more than around €600 would start getting painful for me. Maybe that’s unrealistic, but I was hoping there would be some option on the market where I don’t have to pay twice the price in order not to have smart functionality.

                            I don’t care too much about picture quality - my old projector was more than 10 years old and more than good enough (except that it was too old for HDMI) - I just want build quality.

                            The Epson 3200 3LCD seems to be a popular choice throughout the responses here, but it’s on the expensive side. It also doesn’t seem to be on the market in Europe, which is another difficulty I didn’t forsee. The only affordable-ish Epson 3LCD I’ve found without Android for sale in my country so far is the EB-X49 XGA, and I’m not entirely convinced it’s great.

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                            • T thorry@feddit.org

                              Be sure to filter for three chip designs when going for a DLP based system. Nothing more annoying than color fringing and shifting on a single chip beamer. The Epson 3200 is a good suggestion.

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                              cabbage@piefed.social
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #15

                              Thanks! That’s very useful in order to know what to look for. The Epson 3200 seems to be a solid recommendation, but it doesn’t appear to be available in Europe and also seems to be a bit on the expensive side I’m afraid.

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                              • alert@sh.itjust.worksA alert@sh.itjust.works

                                benq w1070 series
                                lamp ~$10 on AliExpress

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                                cabbage@piefed.social
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af cabbage@piefed.social
                                #16

                                BenQ and Epson seem to be the brands mentioned in the comments here.

                                I struggle to find a W1070 for sale (in general, what a mess this whole thing is - Epson uses the same product names for their projectors and their printers!), but there are some other BenQ models that look interesting.

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                                • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de

                                  Have you looked at laser projectors? No bulb should be great.

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                                  cabbage@piefed.social
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #17

                                  Laser sounds ideal, but all the ones I can find are either very expensive or very cheap and shipping with Android TV. I might end up getting something created for displaying powerpoint presentations in office settings, as the consumer market seems to be perfectly divided between products for rich cinephiles and cheap trash.

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                                  • dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.orgD dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org

                                    With a smart tv(or projector) set up a temporary guest network on your router if it has a mandatory update. Then disable it and never connect to the internet again. Worked for me.

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                                    cabbage@piefed.social
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #18

                                    Yeah, I’m just radicalized to the point where I would rather go without watching movies than to buy some product I have to fight against in order to have it work for me. But it’s true that as long as there’s HDMI input there should always be hope.

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                                    • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

                                      Thanks! That’s very useful in order to know what to look for. The Epson 3200 seems to be a solid recommendation, but it doesn’t appear to be available in Europe and also seems to be a bit on the expensive side I’m afraid.

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                                      thorry@feddit.org
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af thorry@feddit.org
                                      #19

                                      I think there is an European version, it’s the EH-TW7000. I’m not sure it’s going to get much cheaper and still be any good.

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                                      • T thorry@feddit.org

                                        I think there is an European version, it’s the EH-TW7000. I’m not sure it’s going to get much cheaper and still be any good.

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                                        cabbage@piefed.social
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af cabbage@piefed.social
                                        #20

                                        Thank you! It seems to sometimes be on sale for a little less than €900, which is a lot but if it’s the only decent alternative out there I might have to consider it.

                                        It does have features like resolution well above full HD and support for 3D though, both of which are completely lost on me. But it seems you’re right there’s not much to choose from at a lower price range without opting in for a bunch of anti-features.

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                                        • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

                                          Thank you! It seems to sometimes be on sale for a little less than €900, which is a lot but if it’s the only decent alternative out there I might have to consider it.

                                          It does have features like resolution well above full HD and support for 3D though, both of which are completely lost on me. But it seems you’re right there’s not much to choose from at a lower price range without opting in for a bunch of anti-features.

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                                          thorry@feddit.org
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #21

                                          It doesn’t actually do anything above full HD. They use a pixel shift technique that kinda sorta gets a higher resolution. But it’s more of a gimmick. I would consider it a full HD beamer.

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