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  3. A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

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  • bohwaz@mamot.frB bohwaz@mamot.fr

    @wwahammy
    Also this is most likely illegal under gdpr as collecting personal data that is not required for the system to work is illegal. Only necessary data should be collected. So they just made systemd illegal in Europe. Good job.

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    #116

    @bohwaz @wwahammy It's actually worse than that. I've just been reading the UK #GDPR guidance regarding holding age data on children. It's bizarrely complex, but, essentially, children under 13 cannot legally give consent to their age data being held.

    So yes, you can legally hold age data on adults, provided they consent; but you can't on children, unless their parent consents, and that can't just be 'someone who said they were the parent'.

    https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/childrens-information/children-and-the-uk-gdpr/what-are-the-rules-about-an-iss-and-consent/

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    • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

      A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

      This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

      https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

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      cjmalone@en.osm.town
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      #117

      @wwahammy

      > Nobody is a fan of these laws, but not following the laws has huge implications in any project that would like to have any company contribute to it and puts the maintainers in a position where they are unnecessarily liable.

      Ignoring laws is a key and vital part of living in society.

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      • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

        In case anyone is unclear, since I hear he's also campaigning on this Linux age-gating trash:

        Bryan Lunduke is a fascist hatemonger. He represents the absolute worst in free software and I believe he should be ostracized from any and all parts of our community. He wants software freedom for himself and in the abstract but despises individuals expressing their freedom. He believes in a software freedom that is hollowed out and missing love.

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        patricus@gts.posix.live
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        #118

        @wwahammy explain to me what did he do? he's against the stupid age verification shit too.

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        • frumble@chaos.socialF frumble@chaos.social

          @artemis @smn @wwahammy What if you are Californian? Could get you in legal trouble.

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          #119

          @frumble @artemis @smn @wwahammy If you are Californian lobby hard to change a dangerous law.

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          • rriemann@chaos.socialR rriemann@chaos.social

            @wwahammy unless people have ample proof on what he believes in I suggest that they moderate their tone. This looks like a hate campaign to me.

            Some people only wanna implement/support laws they like. That's not how laws work.

            The cyberspace is not independent.

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            #120

            @rriemann
            That's literally how laws work. If the people disagree with them, they revolt, and get bad laws struck off. There are many many examples of this through the ages.

            By supporting them, you become the problem.
            @wwahammy

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            • bohwaz@mamot.frB bohwaz@mamot.fr

              @wwahammy
              Also this is most likely illegal under gdpr as collecting personal data that is not required for the system to work is illegal. Only necessary data should be collected. So they just made systemd illegal in Europe. Good job.

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              #121

              @bohwaz @wwahammy this is the best comment in this thread, it is even discussed in the merge request that date of birth is PII

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              • smn@l3ib.orgS smn@l3ib.org

                @artemis @wwahammy this isn't complying in advance, it's complying with the law. Which passed unanimously through the California assembly and senate and was signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2025. It's not going to be repealed.

                Open source projects do not have the type of budget that allows them to merely ignore the law and shrug off fines and legal fees.

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                #122

                @smn it is only the law in California

                projects should simply add a disclaimer "this product is not legal in regions that require OS level age verification" like they used to for the bundled codecs

                the US isn't the entire world and people from there need to stop pushing their bullshit onto everyone else

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                • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                  In case anyone is unclear, since I hear he's also campaigning on this Linux age-gating trash:

                  Bryan Lunduke is a fascist hatemonger. He represents the absolute worst in free software and I believe he should be ostracized from any and all parts of our community. He wants software freedom for himself and in the abstract but despises individuals expressing their freedom. He believes in a software freedom that is hollowed out and missing love.

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                  patricus@gts.posix.live
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                  #123

                  @wwahammy also, linux is missing love too. accessibility stack lags behind even NVDA 2016.x

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                  • markotway@mastodonapp.ukM markotway@mastodonapp.uk

                    @rriemann
                    That's literally how laws work. If the people disagree with them, they revolt, and get bad laws struck off. There are many many examples of this through the ages.

                    By supporting them, you become the problem.
                    @wwahammy

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                    #124

                    @markotway @wwahammy

                    How about targeting with revolts politicians and not opensource developers?

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                    • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                      A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                      This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

                      https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

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                      tofuhuehnchen@fedi.at
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                      #125

                      @wwahammy I wish them scabies and arms too short to scratch themselves!

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                        jadedarko@hachyderm.io
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                        #126

                        @konomikitten the vast majority of people (over 95%!) do not live in the US

                        the US *is* an asinine overseas country passing bullshit laws

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                        • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                          A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                          This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

                          https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

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                          #127

                          @wwahammy How many youth were involved in the considerations you made when building YOUR opinion on the matter?

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