Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

[feisty_lemming@zeroes.ca]

@evacide “The company said it would not abandon its use of AI, but plans to now use it in conjunction with human oversight and experience.”

[jswright61@ruby.social]

@evacide I am of an age. I can’t read a story like this without thinking about Mr. Mom.

[christianrickert@23.social]

@evacide

When something is ingested, it almost never resurfaces as a "high-quality product".

[jamesmarshall@sfba.social]

@evacide they thought that because the snake-oil salesmen told them so. At least they're figuring it out now.

[enema_cowboy@dotnet.social]

@christianrickert
Who does Ford think they are? Civet cats?
@evacide

[lykso@tiny.tilde.website]

@evacide The goose was not valued.

[christianrickert@23.social]

@Enema_Cowboy @evacide

Exactly! 🫘

[brad@1040ste.net]

@evacide Wankers. That's Ford though - Found On Rubbish Dumps. They've always been shit.

[aceade@mastodon.ie]

@evacide <nelson>HA HA! </nelson>

[bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org]

@evacide

This is a very useful article to have & is helpful in my current LLM-gen-AI work. Thank you very much for sharing it, as I'd surely have missed it otherwise.

Meta: it seems to me “greybeard” is an inappropriately gendered term. I don't see that term used in the article you linked to, and I note you put it in quotes, maybe to acknowledge that, but couldn't another term be used that doesn't refer to something usually identified gender attributes.

Veteran might be a good term here.

[dio9sys@haunted.computer]

@evacide
It's almost like all of us across different companies have been telling the executive class that that doesn't work this whole time!

[evacide@hachyderm.io]

@bkuhn It's right there in the second paragraph:

The US automaker hired over 350 veteran engineers, referred to internally as “gray beards”, over the past three years in order to address mistakes made by automated systems.

[emmohamed123456@mastodon.social]

@evacide You have many followers, please help me share my pinned post. I need to buy the medication.

[lufthans@mastodon.social]

@evacide I read that as Ford spent 3 years moving to AI quality control in effort to return to the craptastic qualify of the 1970s US automotive industry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Qj58o87sY

[happyborg@fosstodon.org]

@evacide and why did Ford believe that?
- wishful thinking + no regard for their employees + lies from those selling #GenAI

#LLM

[agnesbc@social.vivaldi.net]

@evacide Sadly they are rehiring only the senior engineers because they are betting after just a couple more years and just a bit more training, they won't need any engineers. They don't need to invest in the next generation of "grey beards".

[jzb@hachyderm.io]

@evacide I hope they had to pay a premium to lure them back...

[enema_cowboy@dotnet.social]

@jamesmarshall @evacide

Isn't one the reason why executive "merit" the big bucks is that they aren't so easily fooled by snake-oil peddlers?

"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie, another to listen."
-Homer Simpson

[failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to]

@lufthans @evacide

you all might ask, what is the lesson here ?

Is it that AI is bad ?
no

The lesson is that very highly compensated senior managers at major companies often make really stupid decisions

[unattributed@gotosocial.social]

@evacide Good story overall, but disheartening to read these parts:

…while some workers will also help improve and train the AI systems.

and

The company said it would not abandon its use of AI, but plans to now use it in conjunction with human oversight and experience.

IOW—we're rehiring you to train yourself out of a job…