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  3. AI is so terrible that a drunk intern could outperform it on a lunch break, and so brilliant that only constant witch hunts (usually among already marginalized artists) can protect us from giving it awards.

AI is so terrible that a drunk intern could outperform it on a lunch break, and so brilliant that only constant witch hunts (usually among already marginalized artists) can protect us from giving it awards.

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  • fatsam@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    AI is so terrible that a drunk intern could outperform it on a lunch break, and so brilliant that only constant witch hunts (usually among already marginalized artists) can protect us from giving it awards.

    "Was this award-winning book written by AI? Scandal deepens skepticism in literary world"

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/was-this-award-winning-book-written-by-ai-scandal-deepens-skepticism-in-literary-world/ar-AA2cUIuc

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    • fatsam@mstdn.socialF fatsam@mstdn.social

      AI is so terrible that a drunk intern could outperform it on a lunch break, and so brilliant that only constant witch hunts (usually among already marginalized artists) can protect us from giving it awards.

      "Was this award-winning book written by AI? Scandal deepens skepticism in literary world"

      https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/was-this-award-winning-book-written-by-ai-scandal-deepens-skepticism-in-literary-world/ar-AA2cUIuc

      vivtek@indieweb.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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      @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
      https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

      fatsam@mstdn.socialF rrb@infosec.exchangeR paulm@infosec.exchangeP jonpsp@mstdn.socialJ martinvermeer@fediscience.orgM 8 Replies Last reply
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      • vivtek@indieweb.socialV vivtek@indieweb.social

        @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
        https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

        fatsam@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @vivtek 🙂 no, but unsurprised.

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        • vivtek@indieweb.socialV vivtek@indieweb.social

          @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
          https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

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          @vivtek @fatsam proof of time travel

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          • vivtek@indieweb.socialV vivtek@indieweb.social

            @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
            https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

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            @vivtek @fatsam ironic that the post itself was also entirely AI written

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            • vivtek@indieweb.socialV vivtek@indieweb.social

              @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
              https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

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              @vivtek @fatsam

              ironically, that article felt like it was written by a chatbot, unless that's the house style of people who post articles to LinkedIn.

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              • vivtek@indieweb.socialV vivtek@indieweb.social

                @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
                https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

                martinvermeer@fediscience.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @vivtek @fatsam

                There is no reliable way of detecting AI-generated text or imagery - because it too is made out of ripped-off, human made raw materials. There are some heuristics that may help, but they won't last. It's an arms race.

                The only way to detect reliably is using not the text or image itself, but where it comes from. Reputation is still a thing. Like in journalism, 'lateral reading'. Media literacy. We must all become bellingcats.

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                • vivtek@indieweb.socialV vivtek@indieweb.social

                  @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
                  https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

                  ndevenish@mas.toN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @vivtek @fatsam presumably Mary Shelley isn’t submitting that text as her own work in 2026. If anyone else is submitting that work, then it was indeed AI written.

                  Replace the word AI with “Plagiarism”. “OMG I pasted original Frankenstein into a plagiarism detector and it said it was plagiarised” presumably wouldn’t confuse so much?

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                  • ndevenish@mas.toN ndevenish@mas.to

                    @vivtek @fatsam presumably Mary Shelley isn’t submitting that text as her own work in 2026. If anyone else is submitting that work, then it was indeed AI written.

                    Replace the word AI with “Plagiarism”. “OMG I pasted original Frankenstein into a plagiarism detector and it said it was plagiarised” presumably wouldn’t confuse so much?

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                    @ndevenish
                    Indeed. A 100% result may not indicate that the text is classically written, but that it detects that every word is followed exactly by another word in an exactlyknown way...

                    Which in an ideal world should trigger a web search and find the source and display "copied from xxx" instead of "100% AI"

                    These detectors are neither accurate nor foolproof nor a solution, but the article seems to intentionally ignore technical fine points.

                    @vivtek @fatsam

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                    • xro@chaos.socialX xro@chaos.social

                      @ndevenish
                      Indeed. A 100% result may not indicate that the text is classically written, but that it detects that every word is followed exactly by another word in an exactlyknown way...

                      Which in an ideal world should trigger a web search and find the source and display "copied from xxx" instead of "100% AI"

                      These detectors are neither accurate nor foolproof nor a solution, but the article seems to intentionally ignore technical fine points.

                      @vivtek @fatsam

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                      @xro @vivtek @fatsam I mean, AI writing _is_ Plagiarism. I’d entirely expect/assume some large subset of non-scam AI detection was just Plagiarism detection.

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                      • vivtek@indieweb.socialV vivtek@indieweb.social

                        @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
                        https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

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                        @vivtek @fatsam gotta love when the training data gets flagged as output...

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                        • vivtek@indieweb.socialV vivtek@indieweb.social

                          @fatsam You saw the article a while back about Shelley's Frankenstein being detected as 100% AI?
                          https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-detector-just-flagged-frankenstein-ai-generated-worries-garc%C3%ADa-xoc9c

                          wildhair@franken.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @vivtek @fatsam

                          Was sagt das Tool zur Bibel?

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                          • jonpsp@mstdn.socialJ jonpsp@mstdn.social

                            @vivtek @fatsam

                            ironically, that article felt like it was written by a chatbot, unless that's the house style of people who post articles to LinkedIn.

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                            @jonpsp @vivtek @fatsam

                            There are people on LinkedIn who I know for a fact are real people, who still write like that when they're on LinkedIn. If this isn't being academically studied, it should be.

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                            • wildhair@franken.socialW wildhair@franken.social

                              @vivtek @fatsam

                              Was sagt das Tool zur Bibel?

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                              @wildhair @fatsam Da die Bibel auch zum Training verwendet war, ich schätze ihr "AI-Inhalt" wäre recht hoch.

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