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Stop saying stupid stuff like: "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    Stop saying stupid stuff like:
    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

    Start saying:
    "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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    #20
    @Tutanota OK, I agree with the first part (although I wouldn't characterize it "stupid". It is rather clever propaganda). However, regarding "innocent", what does this even mean, in a world where our privacy and freedom of expression are increasingly shrinking with ever more strict(er) rules about what is considered illegal and what is allowed?
    I'd instead go for: " A country that tracks its people en masse is not a free country".
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    • chaoddity@mastodon.socialC chaoddity@mastodon.social

      @Npars01 @orange_lux @Tutanota Its definitely ai. Look at the womans arms and where here fingers are. Also look at the building behind the pole in the center and how one one side of the pole its one color and on the other its another. Then look at the cameras and how the surface they mount to makes no sense. The mount is not properly parallel to the face or the box it is supposd to be mounted on.

      The style itself is a dead giveaway tho.

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      #21

      @chaoddity @orange_lux @Tutanota

      I'm glad this thread is turning into a public education analysis of how to identify AI slop images.

      In Google, this appears first in the image search results.

      #PrinceBonesaw's money does information pollution so well.
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

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      • orange_lux@eldritch.cafeO orange_lux@eldritch.cafe

        @Npars01 @Tutanota there's clearly an AI vibe from the characters (AI generates quite a uniform style that's common for nearly every AI image).

        Here, the two main giveaways outside of that are the vertical bar that divides the panel in two : AI has created two panels where one would have sufficed.

        Also, the woman has a third hand.

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        #22

        @Npars01 @Tutanota but, when checking for the originals : the drawing on the right was made by Ivan Ehlers for LA Taco on July 26.

        The AI image has a watermark : "Original Pascal Bornet". It's quite easy to find he's a massive AI bro.

        He posted the AI image on his Instagram account on August 19 and of source, as all these AI fuckers, he doesn't give the source.

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        • orange_lux@eldritch.cafeO orange_lux@eldritch.cafe

          @Npars01 @Tutanota there's clearly an AI vibe from the characters (AI generates quite a uniform style that's common for nearly every AI image).

          Here, the two main giveaways outside of that are the vertical bar that divides the panel in two : AI has created two panels where one would have sufficed.

          Also, the woman has a third hand.

          rgulick@social.coopR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #23

          @orange_lux @Npars01 @Tutanota

          I don't know Bornet, but he seems like the kind of guy who would have AI create a marriage proposal, or a eulogy.

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            @chaoddity @orange_lux @Tutanota

            I'm glad this thread is turning into a public education analysis of how to identify AI slop images.

            In Google, this appears first in the image search results.

            #PrinceBonesaw's money does information pollution so well.
            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

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            #24

            @Npars01 @orange_lux @Tutanota sorry. Just saw the question and thought id answer it.

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            • rgulick@social.coopR rgulick@social.coop

              @orange_lux @Npars01 @Tutanota

              I don't know Bornet, but he seems like the kind of guy who would have AI create a marriage proposal, or a eulogy.

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              #25

              @rgulick @orange_lux @Tutanota

              For techbros, they appear to prefer a virtual world of fake perfection, over a real world of imperfection.

              In VR, they are admired by others who flatter them & never face threats to a fragile ego.

              A cartoon with a very on point message is copied then "optimized" without consent by the original artist.

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              • chaoddity@mastodon.socialC chaoddity@mastodon.social

                @Npars01 @orange_lux @Tutanota sorry. Just saw the question and thought id answer it.

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                #26

                @chaoddity @orange_lux @Tutanota

                Your answer was truthful. Truth about AI is getting to be in short supply.

                AI is a theft from artists, authors, & artisans.

                AI is a massive effort by the fossil fuel industry seeking to keep its hegomony.

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                  "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                  Start saying:
                  "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                  #27

                  @Tutanota innocent until proven otherwise.
                  Surveillance assumes not innocent

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                    Start saying:
                    "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                    #28

                    @Tutanota nobody is innocent. no one can judge whether anyone is innocent.

                    and the "stupid stuff"you say, I have a batter words:无欲则刚, and it's no stupid.

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                      "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                      Start saying:
                      "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                      #29

                      @Tutanota I fear their definition of wrong.

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                        "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                        Start saying:
                        "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                        #30

                        @Tutanota "Nothing to hide no reason to look"

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                          "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                          Start saying:
                          "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                          djh1997@mastodon.iow.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #31

                          @Tutanota
                          I love the Terry Pratchett quote

                          Commander Vimes didn’t like the phrase ‘The innocent have nothing to fear’, believing the innocent had everything to fear, mostly from the guilty but in the longer term even more from those who say things like ‘The innocent have nothing to fear’.

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                            "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                            Start saying:
                            "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                            #32

                            @Tutanota Anybody who does say that, shouldn't be allowed any curtains, blinds, or any other window covers at their homes. After all if they have nothing to hide, they've nothing to fear.

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                            • pamela1960@kolektiva.socialP pamela1960@kolektiva.social

                              @Tutanota Anybody who does say that, shouldn't be allowed any curtains, blinds, or any other window covers at their homes. After all if they have nothing to hide, they've nothing to fear.

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                              #33

                              @Pamela1960 @Tutanota I countered a friend with that very same argument down the pub.

                              His reply:"I don't care!"

                              What an idiot.

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                              • wood5y@mastodonapp.ukW wood5y@mastodonapp.uk

                                @Pamela1960 @Tutanota I countered a friend with that very same argument down the pub.

                                His reply:"I don't care!"

                                What an idiot.

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                                #34

                                @wood5y @Tutanota With friends like that, who needs intelligent conversation.

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                  "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                  Start saying:
                                  "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #35

                                  @Tutanota The first phrase can often be followed by a «why are you doxxing me?» and the retort «why would you want your address and phone number hidden?»

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                                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                    Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                    Start saying:
                                    "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                                    hazzino@mastodon.illumos.cafe
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                                    #36

                                    @Tutanota Everyone has something to hide, when you go to the Toilet you hide yourself!

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                                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                      Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                      "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                      Start saying:
                                      "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                                      #37

                                      @Tutanota I have nothing to hide, only from people that I know and trust. #privacy is a duty, not a right.

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                                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                        Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                        "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                        Start saying:
                                        "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                                        csepp@merveilles.townC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #38

                                        @Tutanota Honestly, even the hardcore capitalists should understand that secrets leaking out can absolutely wreck your business. It's wild that Zuckerberg can buy the land around his Hawaii mansion, just so people can't see what's going on on his land, all while selling creepglasses.

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                                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                          Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                          "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                          Start saying:
                                          "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                                          #39

                                          @Tutanota In particular, in a free country you do not have to carry ID with you, you cannot be stopped on the street and asked for "papers please", and you cannot be arrested for not having them with you.

                                          (I'm looking at you, France.)

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