Alright now that I shared my awesome new job, I can finally share with you how moving abroad is going.
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@Nono what does pro or perso mean?
@Gina sorry, by perso: If it's a personnal reason, you don't want to pay so much taxes.
Pro: If it's your job that's imcompatible (for whatever reason) with the french taxes -
@deach if Stockholm didn't have endless dark winters I'd move there in a heartbeat. In fact I almost moved there during my 2nd year of Uni in Amsterdam. Beautiful city.
@Gina yeah I understand, it doesn’t affect me too much but if it does for you then it’s not a good option. Too bad cause I do think it is a fantastic place
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Okay so, I'm still not 100% sure whether I'm making the right choice. I always thought I'd end up in a nice farm house in France, but because of tax reasons France is not an option. And because of weather reasons the whole of Northern Europe isn't an option
So it basically comes down to Spain
or Italy. 
Edit: I'm staying in Europe to minimise timezone differences. #moveabroad
It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:
- sunny and coastal
- green nature
- access to outdoor sports
- a tech community around
- an expat community that is not retirees
- generally educated populace around
- indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
- able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
- within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
- mountains would be cool -
@itorres I have two cats to haul around 🥲 So I kind of just want to find the place and move once.
@Gina then you should come to Cat-alonia or go to Cat-ania.
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@Gina sorry, by perso: If it's a personnal reason, you don't want to pay so much taxes.
Pro: If it's your job that's imcompatible (for whatever reason) with the french taxes@Nono both. It would take tens of thousands out of my pocket.
Then again, if you're able to buy a much cheaper house it might offset the cost.
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@albertcardona I'm going to Girona this Friday!!
Edit: I'm viewing houses around Girona, in Platja D'Aro and outside of Barcelona. Barcelona itself is way too big and busy for me (plus I don't want to contribute to the insane housing crisis there), so hopefully Girona is nice.
@Gina @albertcardona Gina Girona sounds absolutely fabulous btw
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It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:
- sunny and coastal
- green nature
- access to outdoor sports
- a tech community around
- an expat community that is not retirees
- generally educated populace around
- indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
- able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
- within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
- mountains would be cool@Gina this is how i imagine greece.
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It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:
- sunny and coastal
- green nature
- access to outdoor sports
- a tech community around
- an expat community that is not retirees
- generally educated populace around
- indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
- able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
- within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
- mountains would be cool@Gina As a retiree bound for Spain after nearly 2 years of research, this actually seems do-able.
FWIW, the advice I keep getting is emphatically "Learn to speak Spanish as quickly as possible"
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It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:
- sunny and coastal
- green nature
- access to outdoor sports
- a tech community around
- an expat community that is not retirees
- generally educated populace around
- indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
- able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
- within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
- mountains would be cool@Gina I think that only exists in virtual reality.
In real life, sunny & coastal places with all those requirements are going to be hyperexpensive and still burning down every third year, have two months of drought alternating with floods or get wiped out by the increasingly angry oceans before they get a chance to sink under them.
You might have to compromise. A lot
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@Gina this is how i imagine greece.
@willi Greece is amazing, were it not that a lot of places feel very bare because all the young and educated people either moved to Athens or abroad. Athens was a vibe but way too big and busy.
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@Gina As a retiree bound for Spain after nearly 2 years of research, this actually seems do-able.
FWIW, the advice I keep getting is emphatically "Learn to speak Spanish as quickly as possible"
@ericg absolutely. I'd learn Catalan as well, if I ended up there.
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@Gina I think that only exists in virtual reality.
In real life, sunny & coastal places with all those requirements are going to be hyperexpensive and still burning down every third year, have two months of drought alternating with floods or get wiped out by the increasingly angry oceans before they get a chance to sink under them.
You might have to compromise. A lot
@yngmar Australia has it
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@ericg absolutely. I'd learn Catalan as well, if I ended up there.
@Gina Mind the wealth taxes in Catalunya in case you haven't already looked into that.
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It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:
- sunny and coastal
- green nature
- access to outdoor sports
- a tech community around
- an expat community that is not retirees
- generally educated populace around
- indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
- able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
- within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
- mountains would be cool@Gina Well, that fits perfectly for #luxembourg !
The coastal part can be arranged, the problem is the 500k house with garden....That's the price tag for a decent 90m2 appartement. But hey, its Luxembourg !
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Alright now that I shared my awesome new job, I can finally share with you how moving abroad is going.
Currently I'm at "OH GOD OH NO WHERE SHOULD I MOVE TO AND WHAT IF I CHOOSE WRONG AAAH"
Also it's nice having an empty house.
#moveabroad -
It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:
- sunny and coastal
- green nature
- access to outdoor sports
- a tech community around
- an expat community that is not retirees
- generally educated populace around
- indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
- able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
- within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
- mountains would be cool@Gina Know thyself
Honestly, if you take the binairy division of the populace in optimizers and satificers I’m mostly of the second category. And, as people are, I tend to be a bit jealous of the others - the optimizers who know what they want and don’t rest until they get it. So, go for it…
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@Gina @bundyo Don't underestimate the burden of learning a new language. Especially while you're focused on doing something else, like a new job.
Some are much easier to pick up than others, especially if they have shared roots with one you already know.
Also language learning resources vary greatly. Plenty for learning popular ones like Italian, French or Spanish. But good luck if you chose a more niche one. Bulgarian has the added bonus of learning new letters as well
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It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:
- sunny and coastal
- green nature
- access to outdoor sports
- a tech community around
- an expat community that is not retirees
- generally educated populace around
- indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
- able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
- within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
- mountains would be cool -
@Gina Well, that fits perfectly for #luxembourg !
The coastal part can be arranged, the problem is the 500k house with garden....That's the price tag for a decent 90m2 appartement. But hey, its Luxembourg !@romainbecker the coastal part can be arranged?
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It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:
- sunny and coastal
- green nature
- access to outdoor sports
- a tech community around
- an expat community that is not retirees
- generally educated populace around
- indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
- able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
- within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
- mountains would be cool
