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Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size.

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  • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

    Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

    https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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    #13

    @atoponce So outside of uninstalling Chrome, what's the solution here?
    And does it affect other Chrone-based browsers?

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    • faduda@mastodon.ieF faduda@mastodon.ie

      @atoponce So outside of uninstalling Chrome, what's the solution here?
      And does it affect other Chrone-based browsers?

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      #14

      @faduda A possible solution might be toggling chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI, although I haven't been able to confirm, as the 4 GB weights.bin file hasn't shown up on my install yet.

      And no, this is strictly Google Chrome browser bloat. It doesn't affect Chromium, Edge, Brave, or any of the other Chromium forks as I understand it.

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        #15
        @0461fcbecc4c3374439932d6b8f11269ccdb7cc973ad7a50ae362db135a474dd @atoponce

        Your sarcasm is noted. But it's also misplaced. In the article, the author points out that the obvious AI entry points in the browser (the toolbar AI button and the omnibar) don't even use the local model. They still send your queries to Google.

        So you've got a ton of wasted bandwidth and storage space, no consent, no user action, no respect for user preferences (eg: deleting the file), and no privacy benefit because they route everything you type through the Google cloud anyway.
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          #16
          @0461fcbecc4c3374439932d6b8f11269ccdb7cc973ad7a50ae362db135a474dd @atoponce I'll allow that it's clickbait (most every tech news article is these days). But how is it misinformation?
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          • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

            @ferricoxide Thanks. It appears to be ~/.var/app/com.google.Chrome/config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/ for me as I have it installed via Flatpak, but the weights.bin file hasn't showed up yet.

            I wonder if Flatpak is getting in the way here, or if it's getting installed somewhere else.

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            #17

            @atoponce@fosstodon.org

            No clue. I only looked in
            ~ because the only other locations my user would be able to write to would be /tmp or /var/tmp (which would be a bad place for Chrome to try to write to since those tend to be smaller partitions than /home normally is (whether /home is a standalone partition or part of `/)

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            • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

              Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

              https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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              #18

              @atoponce I can confirm this on my PC. I am removing Google Chrome now.

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              • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                #19

                @atoponce Time for #degoogle and #diday !

                #Google

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                • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                  Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                  https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                  #20

                  @atoponce Seems like an easy fix.

                  "The only ways to make the deletion stick are to disable Chrome's AI features through chrome://flags or enterprise policy tooling that home users do not generally have, or to uninstall Chrome entirely "

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                  • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                    Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                    https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                    #21

                    @atoponce what about Chromium?

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                    • johnkavs@mastodon.ieJ johnkavs@mastodon.ie

                      @atoponce what about Chromium?

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                      #22

                      @johnkavs It's unaffected. This is only Google Chrome bloat.

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                      • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                        Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                        https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                        #23

                        @atoponce Just in case someone wasn't already convinced they should dump Google Chrome for fucking good

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                        • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                          @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                          No clue. I only looked in
                          ~ because the only other locations my user would be able to write to would be /tmp or /var/tmp (which would be a bad place for Chrome to try to write to since those tend to be smaller partitions than /home normally is (whether /home is a standalone partition or part of `/)

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                          #24

                          @ferricoxide @atoponce what's the point of using Chrome ? I mean if I use Microsoft I will get a lot shit from Microsoft... No surprise there.

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                          • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                            @johnkavs It's unaffected. This is only Google Chrome bloat.

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                            #25

                            @atoponce not enough people know about Chromium, which Google were forced to create through anti-monopoly pressure

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                            • johnkavs@mastodon.ieJ johnkavs@mastodon.ie

                              @atoponce not enough people know about Chromium, which Google were forced to create through anti-monopoly pressure

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                              #26

                              @atoponce

                              Chromium: non-creepy chrome

                              https://download-chromium.appspot.com

                              Dont listen to googles discouragment: works fine, you choose whether you update it and it doesn't pressure you to use a google account

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                              • tomtom@pouet.chapril.orgT tomtom@pouet.chapril.org

                                @ferricoxide @atoponce what's the point of using Chrome ? I mean if I use Microsoft I will get a lot shit from Microsoft... No surprise there.

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                                #27

                                @tomtom@pouet.chapril.org @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                If it weren't for the horribleness that is the
                                #AWS #FleetManager to access #Windows EC2s via RDP(ish), I wouldn't use Chrome. However, AWS decided that FleetManager should be horrible to use with non #Chromium browsers (or maybe AWS just hates #Firefox).

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                                • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                  Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                  https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                  #28

                                  @atoponce I've no choice but to use Chrome for work on my self-supplied PC, but I'm currently trying:

                                  - Delete weights.bin
                                  - Create an empty file with the same name
                                  - Set its file attributes to read-only, and system to hopefully make it impossible for Google's weights file to replace it when Chrome tries to redownload it.

                                  Fingers crossed. If that doesn't work, I'll see if the hidden attribute works any better than the system attribute.

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                                  • pauldrye@spacey.spaceP pauldrye@spacey.space

                                    @atoponce I've no choice but to use Chrome for work on my self-supplied PC, but I'm currently trying:

                                    - Delete weights.bin
                                    - Create an empty file with the same name
                                    - Set its file attributes to read-only, and system to hopefully make it impossible for Google's weights file to replace it when Chrome tries to redownload it.

                                    Fingers crossed. If that doesn't work, I'll see if the hidden attribute works any better than the system attribute.

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                                    #29

                                    @pauldrye It seems toggling chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI does the trick.

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                                    • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                      Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                      https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                      #30

                                      @atoponce

                                      Another reason to use Vivaldi web browser.

                                      It is the last mainstream web browser to not bundle an AI.

                                      @Vivaldi

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                                      • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                        @faduda A possible solution might be toggling chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI, although I haven't been able to confirm, as the 4 GB weights.bin file hasn't shown up on my install yet.

                                        And no, this is strictly Google Chrome browser bloat. It doesn't affect Chromium, Edge, Brave, or any of the other Chromium forks as I understand it.

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                                        #31

                                        RE: https://social.ridetrans.it/@Andres4NY/116523275939751956

                                        @atoponce @faduda

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                                        • w6kme@mastodon.radioW w6kme@mastodon.radio

                                          @atoponce Seems like an easy fix.

                                          "The only ways to make the deletion stick are to disable Chrome's AI features through chrome://flags or enterprise policy tooling that home users do not generally have, or to uninstall Chrome entirely "

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                                          #32

                                          @W6KME @atoponce Deleting Chrome is the preferred solution for fixing Chrome. It fixes all currently known and future issues.

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