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I'm tired of bookmarking case after scandalous case of how the mass use of LLM for things they can't do is making the world a bit more like Idiocracy.

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  • malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I'm tired of bookmarking case after scandalous case of how the mass use of LLM for things they can't do is making the world a bit more like Idiocracy. Has someone written an executive summary? So I can stop amassing evidence in outrage and just refer to that text or look at the right page and find the appropriate, well-researched answer?

    #LLM #Idiocracy #aidiocracy

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    • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

      I'm tired of bookmarking case after scandalous case of how the mass use of LLM for things they can't do is making the world a bit more like Idiocracy. Has someone written an executive summary? So I can stop amassing evidence in outrage and just refer to that text or look at the right page and find the appropriate, well-researched answer?

      #LLM #Idiocracy #aidiocracy

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      #2

      The challenge for sensible people in this era is to help each other find reliable sources, like tiny boats in an increasing sea of noise, where you easily drown if you try to make it alone. While the proponents of LLM use for anything (from solving cancer to having a romantic partner) can producebasically for free huge amounts of text and image that can distract and confuse any attempts at staying sensible.

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        The challenge for sensible people in this era is to help each other find reliable sources, like tiny boats in an increasing sea of noise, where you easily drown if you try to make it alone. While the proponents of LLM use for anything (from solving cancer to having a romantic partner) can producebasically for free huge amounts of text and image that can distract and confuse any attempts at staying sensible.

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        #3

        It might put us on a challenging path where we need to get significantly better at collaborating than were used to, or even comfortable to do (collaborating is not easy and takes most people out if their comfort zone).

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          It might put us on a challenging path where we need to get significantly better at collaborating than were used to, or even comfortable to do (collaborating is not easy and takes most people out if their comfort zone).

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          #4

          I think the LLM mass hysteria is really a sign of the times and a significant part of a new paradigm of control that is evolving from a time in history where capitalism is no longer as triumphant and reliable. And make no mistake: The fact that there is extreme income inequality is not evidence to capitalism, as that has existed in history before the age of capitalism (remember kingship in feudalism? Or emperors in the axial age?)

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            I think the LLM mass hysteria is really a sign of the times and a significant part of a new paradigm of control that is evolving from a time in history where capitalism is no longer as triumphant and reliable. And make no mistake: The fact that there is extreme income inequality is not evidence to capitalism, as that has existed in history before the age of capitalism (remember kingship in feudalism? Or emperors in the axial age?)

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            #5

            It's that the LLM mass hysteria might play a central role in this new paradigm of control to replace capitalism that I really want to understand what is going. Economically, sociologically, psychologically, spiritually etc. I childishly cling to a hope that someone will write that analysis and put the madness in perspective soon - so we can fight this paradigm more effectively before it consolidates and we'll see another 500 year cycle of this shit like capitalism had.

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            • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

              It's that the LLM mass hysteria might play a central role in this new paradigm of control to replace capitalism that I really want to understand what is going. Economically, sociologically, psychologically, spiritually etc. I childishly cling to a hope that someone will write that analysis and put the madness in perspective soon - so we can fight this paradigm more effectively before it consolidates and we'll see another 500 year cycle of this shit like capitalism had.

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              #6

              @malte This is probably going to be a bit a rough read but I'd really recommend Vincent Lê's article in Aeon:

              https://aeon.co/essays/what-is-nick-lands-philosophy-of-accelerationism-really

              It gets at some of the underlying philosophy behind the madness. Doesn't quite provide an executive summary but I think provides a good philosophical primer of the component parts of whats behind and ahead of us.

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              • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                I'm tired of bookmarking case after scandalous case of how the mass use of LLM for things they can't do is making the world a bit more like Idiocracy. Has someone written an executive summary? So I can stop amassing evidence in outrage and just refer to that text or look at the right page and find the appropriate, well-researched answer?

                #LLM #Idiocracy #aidiocracy

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                @malte Someone did https://burdentennis.com looks like

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                • bms48@mastodon.socialB bms48@mastodon.social

                  @malte Someone did https://burdentennis.com looks like

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                  #8

                  @bms48 @malte Sidebar:
                  I can't get as far as the point this site may or may not be making because I can't read it.

                  Really *really* not liking it. Why is it so human-hostile? I don't really have a problem with the text itself being opaque to the point where I have a hard time discerning its intended meaning (I would have enjoyed it before long covid made language difficult), but the formatting defaults to *unreadable* for me.

                  In portrait screen reader mode, the pages are twice as wide as my screen. In portrait browser mode, the text is less than half as wide as my screen. Zooming aggravates my arthritis because I have to keep careful control of horizontal motion during vertical swiping. (Landscape is slightly better - in browser mode the text is up to half my screen width and potentially readable if I don't mind a headache after the first couple of paragraphs, and landscape screen reader text is a readable font size and fills the screen but is *intensely* annoying to try and read text because it shows about five lines at a time.) Using text-to-speech won't help because my capacity for parsing spoken content is much lower than my capacity for written content.

                  HTML was *designed* to fix this by providing markup that everyone's browser could interpret client side to match their client's preferences.

                  I'm not sure I trust someone with this degree of hostility for their reader to present a fair read on how human-hostile LLMs are.

                  Grrr.

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