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  3. I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

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  • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

    I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

    * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
    * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
    * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

    I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

    neal@social.gompa.meN This user is from outside of this forum
    neal@social.gompa.meN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @carlrichell Is there any communication with California and New York yet?

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    • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

      I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

      * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
      * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
      * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

      I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

      mcneely@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      mcneely@indieweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @carlrichell I'm not from Colorado but I do follow tech policy somewhat closely; it's my understanding that Colorado likes to view itself as one of the leaders in tech policy at the state level. I think it would be very helpful if you pointed at the carve outs for Open Source OSs and Apps and compared that to the state of CA AB1043 and the vagueness of who it applies towards as "Operating System Provider" and "covered app store". Clarity is better here IMO

      https://trackbill.com/bill/california-assembly-bill-1043-age-verification-signals-software-applications-and-online-services/2670347/

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      • neal@social.gompa.meN neal@social.gompa.me

        @carlrichell Is there any communication with California and New York yet?

        carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @neal with the way this worked out, I believe we now have a sound template to start working in other states. I haven't found the amended text online but will post as soon I do. Our next step is a letter to the CO reps that we need to pass the bill with these amendments, then adapting that letter to other states and working with the open source community to raise awareness.

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        • mcneely@indieweb.socialM mcneely@indieweb.social

          @carlrichell I'm not from Colorado but I do follow tech policy somewhat closely; it's my understanding that Colorado likes to view itself as one of the leaders in tech policy at the state level. I think it would be very helpful if you pointed at the carve outs for Open Source OSs and Apps and compared that to the state of CA AB1043 and the vagueness of who it applies towards as "Operating System Provider" and "covered app store". Clarity is better here IMO

          https://trackbill.com/bill/california-assembly-bill-1043-age-verification-signals-software-applications-and-online-services/2670347/

          carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @McNeely the amended version is not online yet (checked last night but not this morning). I will post as soon as soon as I see it.

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          • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

            I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

            * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
            * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
            * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

            I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

            thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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            thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io
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            #6

            @carlrichell idk if this is anything, but my whole career as a programmer and software creator is thanks to being able to freely tinker with computers and the software running on them back in the late 80s and 90s

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            • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

              I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

              * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
              * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
              * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

              I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

              jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @carlrichell It might be a tad dated but

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Schiffmann

              Avi Schiffmann built a Covid-19 tracker when he was in Highschool.

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              • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                @neal with the way this worked out, I believe we now have a sound template to start working in other states. I haven't found the amended text online but will post as soon I do. Our next step is a letter to the CO reps that we need to pass the bill with these amendments, then adapting that letter to other states and working with the open source community to raise awareness.

                jzb@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @carlrichell @neal I'm assuming you've seen that this has gone national? Any activity there?

                Are you working with @eff on any of this? I hope they're also poking about here.

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                • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                  I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                  * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                  * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                  * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                  I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

                  moonleay@mastodon.deM This user is from outside of this forum
                  moonleay@mastodon.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @carlrichell I am using Linux since I was 15 or so. If wouldn't know half as much about computers, servers and networking, if I hadn't had access to Linux, FOSS & open computer equipment at a young age.

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                  • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                    I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                    * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                    * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                    * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                    I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

                    ernmander@squatch.onlineE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @carlrichell Good luck on Thursday Carl

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                    • moonleay@mastodon.deM moonleay@mastodon.de

                      @carlrichell I am using Linux since I was 15 or so. If wouldn't know half as much about computers, servers and networking, if I hadn't had access to Linux, FOSS & open computer equipment at a young age.

                      carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @moonleay yes, and gotta have root to really learn!

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                      • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

                        @carlrichell It might be a tad dated but

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Schiffmann

                        Avi Schiffmann built a Covid-19 tracker when he was in Highschool.

                        carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
                        carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @jackryder that's a great story. Thanks for sharing!

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                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                          @carlrichell idk if this is anything, but my whole career as a programmer and software creator is thanks to being able to freely tinker with computers and the software running on them back in the late 80s and 90s

                          carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
                          carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @thomasfuchs the public's idea of computing has shifted to consuming apps. Open platforms are more important now than ever.

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                          • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                            @moonleay yes, and gotta have root to really learn!

                            eickot@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @carlrichell @moonleay nothing like breaking linux, to learn how to fix it (replace linux with almost anything)

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