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  3. I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

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  • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

    I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

    The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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    #50

    @brettcodes 15+ years of experience in software engineering here. I feel exactly the same.

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    • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

      I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

      The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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      #51

      @brettcodes Thanks!

      I also choose not to use AI at all.

      It wants to do the 10% of my work I love (the remaining is tickets, meetings, waiting for infra...)

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      • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

        I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

        The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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        #52

        @brettcodes That must have been quite an arduous journey. Congratulations on your arrival.

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        • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

          I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

          The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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          #53

          @brettcodes I can totally understand. I occasionally use LLMs, in the chat window of the browser, do get some code snippets and more often than not, the code does not what I want it to do.

          I see colleagues around me using claude and what not, switching between platforms as they keep running out of tokens. Once they run out of tokens on all platforms, they claim immediately that they can bo longer be productive for that day.

          LLMs are tools, but we should not overly rely on them.

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          • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

            I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

            The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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            #54

            @brettcodes @minimoysmagician Thanks for sharing your emotions, and thanks for resisting. You are absolutely right: AI is taking away the best of it, making what remains pointless. Keep resisting! #NoAI

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            • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

              I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

              The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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              #55

              @brettcodes
              Good text, thanks for sharing!
              All of this is why I never started using LLMs. They just mean too much damage on multiple levels, from the individual using them to the system they’re building to the society to the environment.
              It is also why I’m trying to find my tribe and keep talking about the skills that the LLM hype undermines, like seeing programming as communication and a tool to build a shared understanding of the world:
              https://stolat.town/@marcink/117079431946180511
              @Khrys

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              • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

                I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

                The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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                #56

                @brettcodes Thanks for the post, I read it and it helped me to understand this viewpoint better. I think a lot of this comes to autonomy and being able to choose your own ways of working without a lot of pressure for deadlines.

                AI driven development pushes people to handle way bigger changes than they can understand if you don’t pace yourself and take the time to keep up what is happening in the code.

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                • T tuulim@mastodon.social

                  @brettcodes Thanks for the post, I read it and it helped me to understand this viewpoint better. I think a lot of this comes to autonomy and being able to choose your own ways of working without a lot of pressure for deadlines.

                  AI driven development pushes people to handle way bigger changes than they can understand if you don’t pace yourself and take the time to keep up what is happening in the code.

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                  #57

                  @brettcodes I use AI a lot at work to code, but I honestly feel like I’ve managed to dodge the pitfalls often mentioned because I’m not under time pressure and I’ve also purposefully learned to take breaks and not multitask at all anymore.

                  But I think it’s really important that people shouldn’t be forced to use AI and you can be just as effective without it (depends on the personality and strengths of the person I think)

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                  • T tuulim@mastodon.social

                    @brettcodes I use AI a lot at work to code, but I honestly feel like I’ve managed to dodge the pitfalls often mentioned because I’m not under time pressure and I’ve also purposefully learned to take breaks and not multitask at all anymore.

                    But I think it’s really important that people shouldn’t be forced to use AI and you can be just as effective without it (depends on the personality and strengths of the person I think)

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                    #58

                    @brettcodes I want to clarify what I mean by “you can be just as effective without it”. I mean that I assess that my own productivity and quality of my work has improved a lot after starting to use these tools, but it doesn’t mean that it would have a similar effect in every situation and for every developer.

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                    • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

                      I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

                      The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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                      #59

                      @brettcodes
                      I'm so glad to see people in similar situations like me around here. Basically being forced by their employers to "AI or die", no matter the quality or ecological, financial, psychological cost.
                      Most of the time, the heavy AI-first strategies even directly contradict the ambitious sustainability goals and promises the very same companies put in place just a few years ago. Carbon neutrality in 2030 my ass - they're directly burning our fucking planet!

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                      • T tuulim@mastodon.social

                        @brettcodes I want to clarify what I mean by “you can be just as effective without it”. I mean that I assess that my own productivity and quality of my work has improved a lot after starting to use these tools, but it doesn’t mean that it would have a similar effect in every situation and for every developer.

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                        #60

                        @brettcodes One thing that resonated with me in the post was the choice of using ai being an all or nothing question. I feel mostly the same way. It is very hard to discriminate in daily work about each task where should AI be used or not. If I would limit my usage, I would do it by switching it off completely for some of the time.

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                        • cpr320@frontrange.coC cpr320@frontrange.co

                          @brettcodes At work, we use AI for coding, but our team decided that human review is important. And , while I see where you're coming from, it doesn't have to be as bad as you describe.

                          We use a mixed human-AI review. Partly questioning the AI ("how do you know that loop terminates?") and partially reading the code. And, also, reading the comments: if the comments/docstrings make sense, you're half-way there.

                          And when we're writing, we have the AI do a plan, then question it, and review the plan before letting it go. And then run an eyeball over the result.

                          So, I think we're not forgetting our code, and we have a process that produces decent quality code. And it really helps to have management buy-in and good tools.

                          One advantage is that I appreciate the damn machine remembering (mostly correctly) the details of thousands of library functions for me. I'm over 60, and remembering library details is harder than when you're 40. And I've been in the business long enough to be suspicious of most hallucinated, too-good-to-be-true API calls, so I don't get sidetracked too often.

                          So that's our 2026 situation. AI coding sucked in 2025, and who knows what 2027 will bring.

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                          #61

                          @cpr320
                          Are you aware that the LLM is incapable of cognition and therefore it is absurd to ask it how it knows anything?
                          @brettcodes

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                          • cpr320@frontrange.coC cpr320@frontrange.co

                            @brettcodes I can see that. My experience tracks the first part of your essay. But i've never felt tempted to talk to the damn things when not coding.

                            The wider implications are severe, I guess...

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                            #62

                            @cpr320
                            You're asking the machine for a plan. Which means that you'll get the average plan for whatever problem you're dealing with. Better hope these are well understood problems with a robust "best" solution dominating the training data...
                            @brettcodes

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                            • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

                              I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

                              The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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                              #63

                              @brettcodes Expresses my feelings perfectly (and way more eloquent). The environmental and social harm of AI is horrifying, plus I don't want to become a babysitter for chatbots, so fuck AI.

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                              • brettcodes@mastodon.socialB brettcodes@mastodon.social

                                I wrote an essay about why I'm done using AI for coding, even if it costs me my job and career: https://brettcodes.com/im-done-using-ai/

                                The basic gist is: AI made me a worse, apathetic programmer. I think it's bad for humanity, the planet, and the craft of software engineering. And I'm done using it.

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                                #64

                                @brettcodes Thanks for writing/saying all this. So many folks going through this same thing, and sharing always helps. Some of the stories are frighteningly similar!

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                                • iinavpov@mastodon.onlineI iinavpov@mastodon.online

                                  @cpr320
                                  Are you aware that the LLM is incapable of cognition and therefore it is absurd to ask it how it knows anything?
                                  @brettcodes

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                                  #65

                                  @iinavpov @brettcodes Of course. But one can still get useful answers that correspond to the state of the code, even without cognition.

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                                  • cpr320@frontrange.coC cpr320@frontrange.co

                                    @iinavpov @brettcodes Of course. But one can still get useful answers that correspond to the state of the code, even without cognition.

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                                    #66

                                    @cpr320
                                    so you get a statistically plausible explanation of a statistically plausible piece of code corresponding to a statistically plausible purpose? At what point do we collectively agree that a magic 8 ball is about as correct?
                                    @brettcodes

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                                    • iinavpov@mastodon.onlineI iinavpov@mastodon.online

                                      @cpr320
                                      You're asking the machine for a plan. Which means that you'll get the average plan for whatever problem you're dealing with. Better hope these are well understood problems with a robust "best" solution dominating the training data...
                                      @brettcodes

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                                      #67

                                      @iinavpov @brettcodes Yes. One needs to understand the limits of one's tools.

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                                      • cpr320@frontrange.coC cpr320@frontrange.co

                                        @iinavpov @brettcodes Yes. One needs to understand the limits of one's tools.

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                                        #68

                                        @cpr320
                                        Perhaps more central to the post starting this thread, I suspect the very act of "asking" an algorithm for an "explanation" is a slippery slope to believing something about as clever as a gnat (if that) has cognition.

                                        And then the spiral starts.

                                        Because I suspect the answer to my question above is a respectable 80% , which is both amazing and utter garbage.
                                        @brettcodes

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                                        • iinavpov@mastodon.onlineI iinavpov@mastodon.online

                                          @cpr320
                                          so you get a statistically plausible explanation of a statistically plausible piece of code corresponding to a statistically plausible purpose? At what point do we collectively agree that a magic 8 ball is about as correct?
                                          @brettcodes

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                                          #69

                                          @iinavpov @brettcodes You test your code. You investigate some parts of the code carefully. After a while, you get an understanding of how far and when you can trust it.

                                          And you find that it's better than a magic eight ball.

                                          Look, I understand that lots of people (me included to a degree) have well-founded misgivings about AI. But it doesn't help to put your head in the sand.

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